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well it's been a while 24 hours i can

tell you that much guys

with the rumor that was released

regarding annabelle escaping her

her box in the museum

i'm here to try to explain what i think

happened

and why the rumors started this is at

least what i read anyway

annabelle wallace who was the original

actress in annabelle the original movie

the first annabelle movie

was doing an interview not about

annabelle

but about an upcoming movie that she was

in with actor tom cruise

and i believe she was talking about you

know how he does his own stunts

and how fantastic he is and is doing his

own stunts and how serious it is about

his work

and then she also talked about how she

got to run

with tom because he likes to i guess jog

and she said that he's on a different

level and that you know he's

he can run on his own better or

something to that effect i don't

remember

but apparently the interview was

translated into chinese

and the chinese translation came out

instead of

annabelle you know running with tom

excuse me

it came out annabelle escapes that was

the

literal translation i guess and that

caused

a lot of panic i guess around the

country and around the world i didn't

think it'd ever go viral like that but

it did

and uh so that's that's how i think it

happened i don't think any

any particular intent was made to

to start that rumor

it's amazing how many views i got

already

annabelle's real popular everybody's

curious about annabelle

and for those of you who don't know the

story i'm going to give you a quick

rundown of why annabelle is dangerous

because i learned this from ed remember

when i met ed in 1979

annabelle was already in the museum he

had placed that dial in the museum in

about 1971

and he told me the dangers of the dollar

right from this

right from the start he went through the

whole story

you know it was given to two nurses in

hartford hartford hospital

back in i think a 70 71

and the mother of one of the nurses gave

donna one of the nurses a doll for her

birthday

it was the raggedy and doll no name

wasn't named annabelle or anything the

girl liked dolls

just like you know kids like toy trucks

and things

and when you grow up what do you like

cars hot rods things like that sports

cars

well girls like dolls too as they get

older she was only about 28 at the time

so she really liked dolls so he

the mother gave her a doll this is what

happened though

with annabelle and why she's dangerous

we don't know what might have transpired

before

the mother purchased the doll we believe

the mother purchased the dial in a

second hand store

items can be cursed rituals can be

placed onto items

incantations can be done evil can be

infused into objects

i think that's what happens anyway she

gets the doll

and she just leaves a dial in different

areas of the room of the rooms

in the apartment she stayed with her

roommate she'd come home from her shift

with her roommate

and find the dolls in another location

that she had remembered

so she said to the roommate you didn't

move the doll or anything before we left

right

no nobody had touched the doll and the

dog kept showing up in different

locations

she'd leave it on the couch and she'd

come home and be on the bed

so then she started to think maybe the

superintendent of the building manager

who's kind of a young guy maybe he's

playing a trick on

us why don't we try to find out so they

taped the door the entrance door on the

bottom with scotch tape

and they would put certain objects like

the rug right in front of the door

the entrance way to see if it would move

at all because it was a slippery rug

they said to themselves we'll know if

somebody was here well they

did that they came home nothing was

disturbed

they walked in the house the dial had

moved and at one point

there was a note written on parchment

paper and

with a pencil that said help us

and i believe another one said help me

there was more than one note i believe

found under the bed of donna they didn't

own any parchment paper so they were

confused

who did it well the doll was moving

around moving around

one day they're at the breakfast nook

donna and her roommate and they're

having breakfast

they and donna brought the the doll with

her and placed it next to her at the

breakfast

look as they're talking and having their

breakfast

those two flimsy raggedy end hands

arms made out of cloth and whatever's

inside

they're flimsy though levitated onto

the table of the breakfast nook

now i don't know about you but even with

all my years experience

i think i'd be a little bit scared a

little bit

from what's going on a little nervous

but rather than be scared these nurses

were more intrigued by it

and the other nurse says to don and she

says you know

that doll is trying to tell us something

i know a psychic

and she can probably figure out what's

going on and what the message is

so they agreed to have a psychic come in

the friend

and they did they had a seance that

evening

the psychic says when she goes into a

trance she says

i'm sensing the spirit of a young girl

that was killed outside this apartment

complex in a car accident

she's about seven years old oh her name

is annabelle

that's what she told the nurses and the

nurses bought it

hook line and sinker thinking now

there's a human spirit inside that doll

well that's one thing that i could tell

you that's not true that never happens

a human entity can never possess

an inanimate object like that

so they think they have a human spirit

in the doll

now they really try to act like it's a

human spirit in there and they're

talking to her and pay a lot of

attention to it they even bought her a

little bracelet

to put on her wrist and they did

but the kicker was one evening

lou who was the fiancee of donna he was

sleeping on the couch

and the doll was on the other end of the

couch just sitting there

and lou fell asleep on the couch but

then he wakes up with a start

and he's really really like breathing

heavy

he's frightened he's holding his neck

when he wakes up like this

and donna sees this and she says what's

the matter

what happened what's the matter he's i

just had the worst nightmare in the

world

she said what he said i just had a dream

that that dial there

was crawling up my leg and getting up to

my neck and then tried to strangle me to

death

and he was sweaty and

here's what he did he picked up the doll

off the couch

because it's a natural reaction to get

mad

i guess and he threw the dial across the

room and he said that's just a raggedy

endow that can't hurt anybody

but when he did that that's when these

psychic wounds appeared on his chest and

on his stomach

there's four psychic slashes on his

chest and three on his stomach

he had a white t-shirt on and you can

see the

claw-like blood marks up here seven of

them

on his chest and stomach immediately

donna and the roommate who was

home too they got scared they said to

themselves

that's no spirit of a young girl inside

that doll something's wrong

something's really wrong and that's when

they called in the rain

well first they called no first they

called the

father richard nolan episcopal priest in

hartford

and he said i don't know what to tell

you i never deal with stuff like that

he's but i know who does

why don't you call mr warren he's right

here in connecticut and that's what they

did they called in

so ed and lorraine did go out to the

house interviewed the girls determined

that

there's something evil infused within

that dial

and that said i'll take the doll off

your hands because they didn't want it

and that's when they took the doll drove

it back to the museum

and placed it in the museum and that did

have a problem with this car just like

in the movie

not like in the movie where that we got

thrown across the road or anything

but his car was jerking around stalling

on him

and the car ran fine previously to that

but that's not the end of why annabelle

is dangerous

what happened was a detective had come

to the house one day

to talk to lorraine she was working on a

murder case of a young child

and helping the detectives she was doing

psychic work

for them and the detective was at the

house

and his ed described the detective he

said the guy was about six three two

forty

big guy husky and

after he talked to lorraine he looks

over dead and he said he had

can i see that doll that i heard put

slashes on people

and i said yeah come on down father i'm

not father wasn't a priest priest is

later

come on down detective and the detective

walks down the stairs goes through the

passageway leading to the museum

goes inside now remember the dial at

this time

wasn't locked in the case ed didn't make

a case for it

at that point it was sitting in a chair

a corner of

the museum with a little yellow tape in

front of it saying do not touch

well as ed speaking to the detective

showing him around and talking about

annabelle

the phone rings on the wall it was a

rotary dial phone most of you guys never

saw one

a rotary dial phone you might have seen

him in the 1940s movies

50s ed picks it up

and he talks he says okay hold on

he looks at the detective and he says i

have to take this it's a private call

i'm going to go upstairs don't touch

anything please

i'll be right back sved goes and takes

the call upstairs

it wasn't three or four minutes later

that ed hears a rustling sound

coming from the staircase it just takes

that noise he walks over to the

staircase

as the detective he's wavering

off the walls as he's walking he looks

like he's incoherent

and ed said he's white as a ghost he

thought he's having a heart attack the

man

so he says to the man look i'll call an

ambulance i'll call an imminence for you

the detective looks at it and says no ed

it's not that it's not that.

so it says what's the matter he says i

don't want to talk about it that's what

the detective said i don't want to talk

about it

but when he got to the top of the stairs

and sat down

he looks over at lorraine the detective

he says but i'll tell her

hold on one second phone's ringing so

the detective says

i'll tell her but i don't want anyone

i don't want her to tell anyone what i

say i said don't worry it's okay go go

talk to lorraine

so later on it went downstairs

to see what was going on and everything

was all

turned over the chair was turned over

annabelle was on the floor

candelabras were overturned like a big

struggle ensued

so i even asked ed i said later i said

ed

what did that guy say to lorraine and he

said

she never did tell me but she didn't

have to tell me because i know what he

did

he touched the doll and something

terrible happened to that man

they didn't want to talk about at least

not with him

we found out later that this police

officer retired a couple months later

and moved out to california never heard

from him again

then a catholic priest who knew lorraine

very well

came to the house to show edna rain his

brand new vehicle

father bill and he called up and said

lorraine i'd like to show you my new car

can i come over

she said once you come over tomorrow

morning and have some breakfast have

some

lunch in the afternoon it was lunch

so he comes over and he knows that of

course too they're all at the table they

had lunch

everything was fine talking about

different things

and then he looks at edin almost like

the

detective he says hey ed can i see that

dial downstairs that i heard so much

about

smith says yeah come on down father

now the doll still wasn't in a case

same place where it was ed brings him

downstairs

cautions the priest not to touch

anything including annabelle of course

but ed tells the story about annabelle

just like i told you this story with lou

and the slash marks when ed got to the

slash marks

part of the story the priest

almost just like lou well he did he

reaches over the yellow tape and he

grabs the dial picks it up

throws it across the museum he lands on

the floor and here's what the priest

said

god is more powerful than any devil or

demon and that says father

i just got you telling you not to touch

anything

that was wrong you shouldn't touch the

doll

priest goes i don't care god is more

powerful than any devil or demon

that's it and it says yeah you're right

father

you are right god is more powerful than

any devil or demon

but no man is no priest

he really shouldn't have touched it

priest poo pooed it like he was

perfectly

safe goes back upstairs talks to

lorraine

says his goodbyes they look at the car

one more time

that priest never made it back that

night to the rectory

where he lived he got into a car

accident

with his brand new car on interstate

i-84

on his way back to the rectory he went

almost head on into a tractor-trailer

when he went out of control and here's

what

the priest relayed he didn't die but he

was injured the car

totaled brand new totaled here's what he

told that when he called up about a week

later

sobbing to ed saying that i really

shouldn't i should have listened to you

ed

well what's the matter father what's

wrong why are you crying he said

the last thing i can recall was looking

in the rearview mirror of the car on the

highway and seeing the image of the doll

that's when i lost control and had the

accident

you know what we had a lecture back in

1982

at canton high school canton connecticut

and i was in the front row with judy and

with

father bill was there too because he was

friends with ed lorraine

i remember ed showing the slide of

annabelle on his projector

when he put that slide up on the screen

i looked over at the priest

and i'm not kidding here's what the

priest did

the entire time ed was talking about

annabelle

and showing annabelle on the screen

here's the priest

he wouldn't look up he wouldn't look at

the doll

and he wouldn't make any eye contact

with the screen

at all after it finished and went out to

another slide that's when the priest

looked up again

but that's not the end that's terrible

right but that's not the end

another thing happened which was very

bad ed used to give

lecture uh um tours of the museum

to college kids to anybody if they had a

group of ten or more

and ed used to charge like you know five

dollars or something back then per

person

ed was a talker ed loved to talk about

the paranormal

and give knowledge of course we'd love

to talk about it

and he was talking about all the objects

in the museum to this small group of

people

one of the persons that came was a young

man on a motorcycle with his girlfriend

he was about 20 and ed

gets to the dollar now the dollars in

the case now at this time

is now including encompassing a wooden

glass case

and as it's talking about again it's

almost like a trigger

talking about these slash marks on on

lou

what happened to lou the young man

races forward towards the glass of the

of the cabinet

bangs on the glass starts yelling this

is a bunch of bs this is a bunch of bull

if that doctor put slashes on anybody do

it to me right now

he just challenged the doll he

challenged what

the evil that surrounded that thou was

he challenged the demonic ed says hey

you look you and your girlfriend get out

of here i can't have that it's got to be

telling everybody that you can't

touch anything and you shouldn't

challenge anything the kid was smirking

looking at the other people saying you

know you guys believe this bull

laughs walks out with his girlfriend

that man never made it to his

destination either

but unfortunately he was killed

he went head on into a tree with that

motorcycle

we know what happened because the girl

didn't die

she was in a hospital for excuse me

almost a year

she said the last thing she could recall

was they were laughing and joking about

the

doll when he lost control that biking

went straight on into a tree and was

killed instantly

why would you challenge something you

know nothing about why would you

challenge the demonic

why would you challenge evil people say

to me all the time you know

why just get rid of the doll throw it

away you're just throwing away the

vessel

you're not throwing you're not getting

rid of the evil that's there now it's

free to wander where it wants

that's that dial is trapped basically

because of the prayers that are set

around it

it's not really the glass case even

though the glass case is a layer of

protection because you're not physically

touching it with your

hands getting your aura mixed with the

or of the inanimate object

the evil within that object evil aura

it helps but it's the prayers that we

have the

binding ritual prayers that are said by

a catholic priest

that keeps the evil at bay it's almost

like a

electric dog fence where the dog can

only go so far then he stops

they can't go any farther so

we believe that the dial still has

activity in fact we know it does

and the doll is not owned by anybody

else but me

uh no one else owns it people say this

guy

said he bought it this guy bought it no

i've had offers for the dial for two

million dollars

now how many of you out there could use

two million bucks i could

but then i thought to myself i can't do

it

i remember ed saying that you you can't

allow evil to roam like that if you can

captivate it

and capture it and keep it at bay why

would you allow it into

society i won't sell a doll

i won't give the dollar away i'll sell

it for any price

sometimes this thing's more important

than money and that's safety of other

people

people may think it's a joke they may be

listening to this or other

stories and things about annabelle think

it's all a big hoax a big

big joke it's not it's not that's why i

keep security

and i have to pay for security for the

museum and for the doll

i have separate security on the doll and

on the case

i mean the museum and the doll so i have

two separate security systems going

and there are times when

there's higher activity like now that i

move the entire case

and put it in a safe location i have dan

rivera help me

we moved the entire case into a secure

location away from the museum

and high activity times like now when

people can be all over the place like

trying to find the doll and it's no joke

it's not a joke so i want you guys to

know that

that no one else owns the doll but me

and my wife

judy and i own the property of that

lorraine warren

it was willed to judy and me

and we own the museum that's on the

property and all the contents

in the museum that was willed to us no

one else

that was a stipulation that ed had and

lorraine had

that we will keep those objects safe

what happens after we pass still to be

decided because we're still thinking of

different avenues to take

ladies and gentlemen i appreciate the

comments

i appreciate the viewership you know i

noticed that my viewership went up

and i mean my subscribers went up since

uh

since this thing happened and uh

it's one of those things that happened

by accident i guess with annabelle

wallace

very innocently making a statement and

then getting mistranslated

about about annabelle

in future videos i'll talk about a lot

of other things

that have other subjects what it means

to be an investigator what it means to

be involved in the paranormal

why is the paranormal something that we

should explore things like that

you know our whole society is

faith-based

we don't do anything without prayer we

don't do anything without god's

guidance we ask for god's guidance when

we do things

as for a tv show if one comes along

it's something that sounds right it's

not hokey something that imparts

knowledge to people

i'll consider doing it i'll consider

doing it

for now ladies and gentlemen i just want

to tell you that

i appreciate you i appreciate all the

comments and i appreciate the viewers

from all over the world

all over the world and i especially have

a

fond a fond uh

thought for the uk of course i love

america

i love everything about america well

about what it's supposed to stand for

not for what's going on today

but what america was founded on but i

also love the uk

because i've been there a lot of times

i've spent over two months there

and with ed lorraine and judy i know how

beautiful the countryside is

scotland ireland

england wales

i don't know if ireland is called

considered a part of the uk i don't know

is it

i know it's england scotland and wales

but i've been to all of them

and they're all beautiful the people are

all beautiful people

they're very polite you know they're not

like a lot of american people

a lot of american people are very polite

now

yes i know there's some people from the

uk that aren't very polite either

but their overall demeanor they were

very nice to us

that's all i can say is every time we

talk to someone in the uk

we uh in person talking to

they were always very pleasant to us and

my comments very pleasant so i just love

everything about the uk i'm not english

or scottish or irish or welsh

i am italian is about italian as you can

get

my uh my mom is was 100 italian my dad

100

their parents couldn't speak english and

uh

but i still love the uk of course i love

my heritage too

but i'm american i'm american above all

else and so are most of you watching

this

we have to start treating ourselves

better what i mean by that is each other

better sometimes i wish i could grab

people from other countries and bring

them here and show you

like grab some people from the uk grab

some people from south korea

grab some people from other asian

countries

that show respect at all times

how do i know that well

in taekwondo which is korean

i see the respect that's instilled in

these

folks the respect for others

for everything i see how

respectful master chris's son is to me

and to everyone there and he's 11 years

old he's got my same birthday but he's

like 57 58 years younger than me

i think he might be 12 now great kid

and i see how they are their their

honesty and their integrity and their

genuineness

they treat everybody with respect and

with courtesy let's start

doing that let's start treating others

with respect and courtesy

you know you can learn a lot from every

encounter with every human being

i learned a lot from taekwondo from

respect

to be respectful of other folks and

to work hard and to never give up

that's part of the tenets of taekwondo

you know never give up

always strive to be the best and

discipline and courtesy

and determination all those things

i look at pastor chris's son and i see

what a

great kid he is how respectful he is to

everybody

i told you like the first time i took

the class

the first time i was there i wasn't in

bad shape

i mean i did my cardiac rehab for three

months after i had my stents put in

so i was on the rowing machine on the

bicycle and on the treadmill

and i thought i was doing pretty well i

got down about 207 pounds from 243.

uh then i took taekwondo after the

cardiac rehab to figure to

keep the exercise going and

master chris's son ethan he was in the

class

he's already a black belt i was a no

belt they didn't give you a belt when

they start

the first thing we did on my trial class

was running around the gym

the dojang hold on phone's ringing again

excuse me okay here's

i'm continuing on and

i'm running around the dojang

with about 10 other people i was in last

place of course

and no i was the second to last place

ethan was behind me

because he was respectful of his elders

he ran behind me but then as i was

slowing down so much

i mean almost walking he passed me

and because you know master chris was

saying keep going keep going

and he passed me and i looked over my

wife because my wife

accompanied me on the first visit and i

said

he passed me out i was embarrassed

because i couldn't keep up

you know what ethan did he slowed down

and let me go by him and he stayed

behind me the rest of the time

see that's respect that's respect for

your elders it's respect for other

people

he didn't want to make me look bad and

he was about

eight or nine at that time i'm telling

you ladies and gentlemen

respect goes a long way courtesy goes a

long way

and that has to do with paranormal too

you know there are times when i want to

just

lash out there are times when i want to

get mad

when i want to start screaming i

remember

i'm italian right i could have a temper

that would just blow the roof off that's

why my father was

he had a temper that frightened anybody

even though he's a good good man he had

a hair trigger temper from the war

and i started to get that kind of

attitude myself of being

a hair trigger and wanting to get

revenge if somebody said or did

something to me no

i'm not gonna do that anymore i'm going

to

send prayers their way and send good

thoughts

because some people got a lot of

learning to do they're in a different

level

they have to they have to attain a

different a new level to get to where

perhaps we are today where you are where

i am

i know there's a 99 good people out

there

it's a one percent of people that make

everything

miserable for the others that includes

cops

whose doctors includes customer service

people

airlines stewardess whoever they are

grocery people

they're all nice people except you get

this one person who really turns you off

who really says something or is rude now

you think they're all that way

they're not most people are good people

i think most people believe in god

i sure hope so i know i want to be with

my

loved ones who have passed away ed

lorraine

my brother ted my father my mom

my cousins my good friends that have

passed

i want to see him again my doctor gian

grosso who is a

great friend of ed and his wife betty

great great people

tony giangrasso the funniest guy you

want to meet is a

medical doctor so look

do good you'll never regret it

learn things you'll never regret it you

want to be a paranormal researcher read

a lot

do right by others you know you'll sleep

a lot better too you know

if i have a downfall which i think i

have a few but one of my downfalls is

i want to eat too much you know when i

get fat i want to eat a lot of food

i love food and but you know

everybody has a thing where they have to

straighten it out a little bit

so for you guys out there who want to

learn a paranormal stay with the channel

i'll keep imparting what i know i don't

know everything

far from it but what i do know i learn

from ed

and i learn from years of experience on

my own and from lorraine

lorraine taught me a lot as well she

taught me really how to love people

how to be listed how to listen to people

so ladies and gentlemen i know i have as

long winded again

i want you to know annabelle is safe and

sound

in a location that's secure

so until next time i'm tony spara