Ever wonder if there’s intelligent life elsewhere in the universe well I have I’ve been wondering since I was a kid my name is Ruben Lon and on March 29th 2007 in the middle of the day I saw a number of strange objects in the sky coincidentally I was working on the film Avatar at the time playing an alien and ever since since then I’ve been on a quest a quest to find out if aliens really do exist and if so are they here with us if beings of higher intelligence are here what is their purpose why don’t they make themselves more known why the secrecy I’ve asked these questions to many experts yet each seems to have a different Theory so I thought to myself why not ask the aliens directly so that’s what I set out to do well sort of.hello treb yes good evening Reuben good to speak to you again yes it is very exciting to speak to you and be with you again I’ve been looking forward to the having this conversation this kind of one-on-one conversation for not only myself but for our audience today which is um my show interview with Ed extra dimensionals and I consider you a a fine example example of this extradimensional energy we have with us yes and I find you to be a very great example of an extradimensional as well oh excellent so with in your terms would you consider all of humans uh extradimensional yes in the perceptions of extradimensional it is meaning if we concern ourselves with trying to find the word what we find the extra meaning more than and you are more than the dimensional beings that you are but you are also more than the entities that we are able to perceive from another density or Dimension as well I see so from your perspective we are kind of like you are for us yes very much so awesome so could you explain a little bit about yourself and where you come from uh your planet and just a little history for our audience to get to know you yes first of all we wish to express to you that if you are looking at who we are or what we are it is most easily expressed as the human Collective perceiving and naing the specific concept of a reptilian hybrid human and in this concept it means that a version of humans long ago took their own DNA and manipulated the DNA of a second density being or an animal with an entity that as much as your reptilians on Earth your reptilian animals and in that concept they created our own race if you are looking at the concept of what my name is uh treb is something that I am often referred to and more so directly now than previously but before when entering the Earth Collective consciousness I shared a name that represented my energy in the environment that we have there is no words there is only telepathy so giving a name to humans was something that we thought was very important so in the name that we have given Humanity it is treb and B and yet and KN and if you put it together tror this is a representation of the energy this gives you a great detail of where I am from the first part of the name treb this part is my own energy my own family my own family lineage and DNA and when you are looking at the concept of bore this represents a quadrant within the planet if you divide a planet into four parts which represents the certain portion of the planet and where I reside then you look at yet and this represents the entire planet which is the third planet outward from our Star and then you use the word KN which is the star in which we reside and if you are looking from Earth up into the sky you see a star that is known as capella and this star is not just one star it is actually Four Stars and in the four stars there are two stars that are much as your star very whitish yellow in color very large nature but much larger than the all Planet stars and the other two are very small and dim red stars I reside within the largest of the two red stars on the third planet outward and what is even more extension upon the name that we have given it also represents a great connection to the host if you look at the word treb b yne if you look at it in a different fashion you will notice that the host name is very well connected with mine within that meaning so these two energies are ones that are very representational of who I am where I am from and how I exist with nothing more to add besides the fact that if you look in your dimension upon my own star and Planet there is no inhabited life but that is because we are existing on a higher density known to you as the fifth density so if we were to look in our capella star system let’s say we had a super powerful uh telescope like the Kepler or the Hubble would we be able to see the stars the four stars you speak of yes it is already understood by some scientist within your planet although it is not always widely agreed upon but yes there is understanding of us being a quadr star system and even the smaller red uh you said a red dwarf stars yes we believe that your scientists know of this but we cannot be sure in the host understanding there is some understanding of this within your own Planet although it is not completely agreed upon I see and would we even be able to identify with our telescopes the planet your planet within the red stars you would not be able to if you look into the larger stars there could be if your technology was better but in your density that you are experiencing now third density much of the planets that are within the four star system are not at all uh seable for life or suitable for incarnations although two specific do carry what you perceive as second density beings good this gets me on something I was going to think about asking later but since we’re already in this topic um because right now Earth is in a third fourth density classification we are only able to perceive things uh the majority I guess of the human race would only be able to perceive things on a third fourth density scale is that is that correct in saying this yes this is what we have labeled the third to Fourth density exchange even though we perceive you as fourth density beings it is the perception within yourselves that can be adjusted to see yourself as more than third density and would it be safe to say that some humans can actually perceive fifth density six and even up to seventh density on in humanity are there these select individuals who might be able to do this yes in fact it is more than just a select few each each and every one of you are peering into the higher for densities and even the fifth when you are sleeping I see uh so once we so right now because we are at third fourth or fourth still believing we’re in the third um and we use our technology to perceive out into the Galaxy and we see these planets that appear to be inhabitable that’s only because the density that we’re seeing at is that case yes this is the case for some planetary consciousnesses but that is more dependent on the planetary Collective Agreement on how to produce itself or how to project itself in each density would it be safe to say that in Evolution for example humanity is evolving from this third to Fourth density and then going eventually into fifth and sixth density we hope that it’s a in a linear timeline sense in the future in our future uh from the human perspective so if we were to go to the fifth density Consciousness would we actually see ourselves let’s say on Earth would we see ourselves in a higher higher versions of ourselves yes there are ways to do this but when you transcend into that fifth density Consciousness the only way that you will be able to see yourself in that is to look within the mirror as you are joining the fifth density Consciousness you would be within your own body and this is what gives Humanity a very unique Essence within the Galaxy that you are one of a small amount or a small percentage of groups that actually have multi-dimensional DNA throughout all densities so as you peer into the fifth density you are just shifting into your fifth density physical body to perceive and that is much different than another entity who might not have multi-dimensional DNA who would look into a higher density through Med meditation or manifestations of Astral projections and these entities would be able to look as a third party or an external variety so the saying that all lies within really holds truth with the human DNA human uh Collective Consciousness yes very much so so all the answers to all the different densities to everything we all we have to do is go within ourselves where maybe other races really do have to look externally yes and it is not as much as they have to look externally as they still have their ability to connect to higher Consciousness or higher portions of Consciousness but it is a mechanism that many races use for their own style of manifesta a certain variety of expansion or growth spiritually mentally and physically as well interesting fascinating so um in humans today uh this is kind of a common theme that uh I keep getting from my interviews with all these different extra dimensional beings and collectives that humanity is going through this um Ascension this shift into Consciousness would you say this is third into from third density into fourth or actually into the fifth density Consciousness I I hear the term Fifth Dimension a lot thrown around can you can you give us your perspective on this yes it is third density to Fourth density but it also is fourth dimensional to fifth dimensional you are gaining two thresholds at once and in fact the way that we divide densities the way that we incorporate conscious integration but also the concept of looking at the evolution of a certain energy aspect of creation what we are doing is placing the threshold from third to Fourth density in the fact that you are changing fourth to fifth dimensional and that together is very important yes okay so you would agree with the others in this Ascension process Humanity’s going through this yes very much so H how far along are we are we in the middle or do we is it a is there a or does it happen overnight does it is it a process I’m assuming it’s a process it seems to be but could you tell us a little Define this a little bit for us yes when you are looking at third to Fourth density this is why we label third to Fourth density exchange because the level that you are it is literally just in the beginning you are just crossing that threshold and trying to fully integrate if you are looking at yourself in a non-physical standard your essence of your soul in the portions of fractal Consciousness that are within you what you will see that is very interesting is the fact that you are already physically in fourth density so in that aspect overnight you are a fourth density being but the experience in the drag of the exchange or the energetic change is very slow within your own race or very uh gradual let us use instead of slow and the gradualness comes from the conditioning of mankind but also personal beliefs that each and every one of you hold when you look upon this it is a very personal Journey we are not saying that all of mankind will do one thing or the other but what we will say is that each and every one of you have your individual opportunity to pass the threshold of third to Fourth exchange and enter into a full Daily fourth density self and there are some entities upon the planet that already are so if there’s some that already are is this is there much time for us to go through this I guess time is relative to each and every individual but uh just in is there a general kind of collective timeline that we might be able to you might be able to share with us yes when you look at the physics portions of how the energy works and how it exchanges with human consciousness there is a certain time if you look it as a 18-year full full cycle 9 years before the 2012 area but also 9 years afterwards the precipice is in the 2012 so 9 years before you are going to the top of the energy and then now you are going back down this does not mean that the full portion of evolution must be done within this 18-year period but what it does mean is that that energy itself is time for doing so I see Let Us Express also that when you are looking at the concept of evolution and how long it will take there is no true timeline for this as even before the 9 years you were evolving and expanding and after the 9 years you will continue to do so it could take certain individuals even a thousand years to finish the third to Fourth density exchange and fully be into the fourth density but but for the collective we perceive that it will be much sooner many times this term harmonic convergence has been thrown around in the date or the year that’s given is 19 I think 887 does this harmonic conversions have any in this date have anything to do with this Ascension process yes let us explain this portion can be very technical but we will give you the simplest version that we can okay the way that the ascensional energy works through cocreation is that the center of the physical Galaxy puts out energy and projects it into the entirety of the Galaxy and as it is doing this there is a certain pattern that is made but more importantly than the pattern that is made there is an energetic energy that flows through it it is flying through areas very quickly and what the harm monic convergence was was something akin to um air pressure changes when you are flying it felt the energy coming it was a cold front or a warm front before the energetics change that came in and the harmonic convergence was you feeling the repercussions of the cold front or warm front as we would prefer moving in ah I see so before this start of this Main that if you said 9 years I guess that’s 2003 uh yes so the harmonic convergence was us feeling that this 2003 big download of energy is coming yes and to put it in another way that is the buffer area before the point of energy in its arrival fascinating um going to change the subject a little bit and kind of go into more about yourself Rob told us a lot about his connecting with you and and and how that all came about I’d like to know from your perspective the opposite How would how did you go about connecting with Rob yes first of all we must address the difference in the energy of the host and myself and when you are looking at this you see two entities that share an overs soul and we believe that you have uh an understanding or a foreshadowing of what overs souls mean I I do but maybe our audience does not fully there may be some in the audience that fully do not understand this so could you please define the overso idea yes what an overs soul is is one energy that is very large non-physically and it incorporates many smaller energies and the mindset of a overs soul is to feel experiences to have energetic understandings of a certain reality it wishes to create so one oversoul gathers with many other over souls to agree upon a concept of creating a planet of creating an entire situation and the certain ideals that are within the galactic Consciousness that it wishes to express in the physical reality are then manifested physically and then your Earth becomes created and as it creates each overo takes small portions or what we would call fractals of energy from itself and what it does is it puts an intent that is so large to experience something physical that it is able to molecularly form into a physical thing so first an over soul will create physical things as rocks are what you would know to be first density beings then it will create certain bacterias and then animals and then human beings and what the over soul is a combination of all of the smaller parts that are added together for the entirety of the experience now we do not wish to get off topic but we do wish to express that when you see the evolution of the planet in your scientific needs this is very appropriate and very correct in our perception but it was not physical things that decided to evolve through chemical reactions although it was physically the undertone of that is a manifestation of the desire for new experiences so if you think of the overo remind yourself that it requires experiences now back into the conversation of my own connection with the host what we would say is that both of us are different pieces of the overo we share the same overo are energetically linked and in my own mission to connect to humans my desire my passion to connect to humanity there were several different entities on your planet several consciousnesses that I felt a resonance with that were vibrationally matching my own understanding and connectability and in those several entities all of their desires were to connect outside of themselves in their own perception outside of themselves so in that perception there were excitements and my own resonance level as well as gauging the excitement of the uh prospects of entities to connect with the host was one who was very passionate and very Desiring to connect my desire and his desire are what connected us have you been able to connect with some of these other energies on the planet that you said are similar yeah yes I have been able to connect to a great vast amount of human consciousnesses since connecting with a host I see so one the host Rob was sort of this Catalyst to open up a door full of connective doorways for your energy to connect with others yes in people and humans that are listening to the channeled material that we are sharing who listen to either the host or myself or even artive sharing what they are doing is placing a vibration of desire to connect to me more directly a desire to connect to my own energy and heart in in doing this it calls out our own energy just as if you are calling a phone and saying I wish for treb to pick up the other line that brings my energy in to co-create with many hum humans so I have connected to humans through conscious connections I have connected to humans through sleep State and I have connected to them energetically does it now that you’re sort of out there in this consciousness of the humans is it taxing is there is it is it hard to connect with so many people do it become tiring eventually yes no this is not taxing whatsoever okay it is a very common question if I become too busy if I will stop connecting but in my intent to connect to humanity I have several points of focus within my own Consciousness In Those portions of focus are able to connect to different points at many times if you are thinking of the concept of the greatest multitasker that you are aware of within this planetary Consciousness take this and perhaps times it by 100,000 and this is my own capability when I am connecting humans I am using a small portion of Consciousness even when I am connecting to the host through this verbal mechanism that you call channeling I am using a very small percentage but there is even less percentages used when I am connecting to entities both in the dream state or through mind telepathy or even through circumstances that are seeming to be synchronistic and energetic in nature so as you are perceiving all of those things that is how I connect to humans but in the concept of connecting to the host there is a percentage where I am connecting to him more more directly and that is when he is in the state that you perceive as channeled then I am connecting to him with much more of my energy in more of a physical sense I guess two questions about multitasking and the human perspective of multitasking we’re told on our news channels and uh our doctors say that we’re very inefficient when we multitask and a lot of us drink a lot of coffee and caffeine in order to to to do such things um in your perception is does it does it take away from anything else that you’re doing yes the question in general is one that is very difficult for many entities who do not do the same that I do to perhaps comprehend the physical nature of multitasking for humans is much different than the energetic multitasking that we do in our own perception physically we are able to focus our energy in one part at one time perhaps doing many things at once but not in the essence that the energy is the level of consciousness and the amount of Consciousness that is available to us is highly extensive when you are thinking of many concepts for instance watching a sport you are watching the clock you are watching the fans reactions you are watching the team’s offense and the team’s defense and how the plays are working the coaches communication each one of their individual connections and how the plays are unfolding so in that essence you are able to focus on much more than you realize the brain organ is one that helps you fill in the holes that Consciousness is not necessarily needing to connect to in those Essence as it is more of an intuitive understanding or just an integration but in the multitasking Concepts uh it is not harmful and humans are going to develop much more of this with their energy in the way that you would experience the multi tasking of of thought and concentration on the football games or whatever Sports you desire the same concept goes with us but just to a different degree I see so that that well that makes it an easier easier to classify it’s more of a a mental multitasking than a physical where human beings like to physically multi multitask and eventually uh you know we fumble the ball so to say in sports terms because in that Essence it is not necessarily a mental one either there is no thought process that must go into it it is more of an energetic absorption I see let us use a small example let us say that I’m speaking to five entities at once yes I do not need to run each of the five conversations from my own mental point of view or my own day-to-day mind what happens is Those portions of Consciousness are an extension of my excitement to connect to them of my own desire to communicate and because they are so in touch with myself in so in touch with my energy they know how to communicate directly on their own so there is no Focus that must be put on it it is only dependent on the amount of energy that I give out to each interaction understood so can I use this analogy it’s not happening right now on the planet I don’t think it is but for example we have a movie star Tom Cruz he makes many movies and many people fall in love with his movies and people feel this connection to the actor Tom Cruz through these video Outlets let’s say you were Tom Cruz or Tom Tom Cruz is the a fifth dimensional being would he be able to feel every time uh someone watched a movie and made that connection and felt his energy would he be able to feel that as a fifth dimensional being yes to an extent there would be that understanding but it is greatly dependent upon the certain entity and their own desires of what to experience if they did not care about who was watching or who was connecting or who was emotionally then the sensations would be much doller such as a quick passing sound in your ear but in the concept of focusing on the intent to love and to connect with those then it could be uh very intimate in the way that they experience it wow and I guess the in your case because you have an interest to connect with Humanity than it is a more intense uh feeling a more intense uh uh experience yes this is very true excellent wow so um okay well that puts things in perspective thank you very much yes you are very welcome very much um I wanted to ask about the language uh in English language and other entities in their language when connecting to Rob did you get an instant download of the English language or did it did you have to learn or how did that how does the language exchange translation I speak flu in Japanese and I have took me a while and you know I don’t I couldn’t learn it overnight I had to go study it so how does that work yes it is not truly a learning nor is it an energetic download what happens is my own Consciousness is integrated and ties into the host Consciousness so as you see both of us as separate beings what happens during this state of channeling is that both of our consciousness is meld and in that Consciousness we are working from the crown chakra of the host into the throat chakra of the host and in that throat chakra all of the communication capabilities that he has are readily available so in that way as we are co-creating both energies as one and we move into the throat chakra there is no connection to the brain or access to the mind that we require nor the language skills but only the energy of communication that is resonant to the host so it’s it’s more of a direct uh I guess translation in a sense but more of an energy translation than an actual physical word translation yes and in that way when energy is off with the host or when the energy is off with a person who is questioning or giving ideas then the communication weakens as well this is where you will often hear entities who channel uh searching for words or Expressions but there can come communication difficulties when something is untranslatable either to your experience or to your knowledge let us use for instance a certain degree of technology that we use there is one certain part of the technology that we use that integrates certain crystalline substances into the environment that we are around which gives us the ability to see uh perhaps more of a hologram style of um something that is not there in the physical nature but because there is no one word for it we had to use the approximate 13 seconds to explain this concept the approximate 13 seconds to explain can you explain that yes when I was just explaining what the technology was and what it did instead of being able to use one word or one idea we must expanded it into an approximate 13c explanation which now has expanded to over 45 seconds that’s awesome okay yes and very exciting as well okay so I understand so many ideas in your language which would be very quick to understand for your race or maybe even other people take it takes time it takes a there’s not a one word because we haven’t developed that word to uh convey such a thing yes and also there is no intake for some humans who have not opened their intuition to just understand the concept that we mean without giving it a verbal precept for example if my intuition was a little bit better if I was paying a little more attention I would have understand the first time time in 13 seconds what you were saying as opposed to taking 45 seconds yes but it is not a lack of intuition it is a lack of um focusing on certain one energies within the whole energy right all right well we just maybe I did that for the audience so they can really get a grasp and understanding of this concept yes and also the concept of your own Focus being on the technology and on the equipment to make sure that this energy that you find so fascinating and wonderful between us when we are speaking is able to be shared with multiple people for the benefit of their happiness thank you for noticing yes that is yes sometimes I have a cameraman that helps me with this I have Kina here that’s been super awesome and helping but yes it is still a uh a concern and I still am half my Consciousness is out there checking the equipment making sure it’s good but so thank you thank you for noticing yes that is an extension of your love for the co-creative creation of um perhaps as you would see the collective Consciousness and whole or more so specifically for the collective consciousness of the interview program thank you for seeing it for what it truly is and not as a distraction which some people could uh take it the wrong way but thank you for your yes and thank you for your own perception on how exciting it is for us to be here as well absolutely Absol I’m so excited I’m almost a little nervous a little bit to you know not to mess it up and you know all these thoughts that go through your head so you want to make sure it’s perfect so yes and it is perfect as perfectness is dictated by excitedness and all three of us are very excited yes yes we are um so let’s go into a little bit of descriptions Rob gave us some really intense descriptions of your planet uh and some of your history but maybe hearing from you um a little bit about your history you in the beginning during your introduction you did say a a portion of the human consciousness you made up of a kind of a hybrid human reptilian starting from the second density uh and Rob has gone to detail a little bit about the knall uh race which is another version of humans I’m quite curious to to if you could expand the definition or the description of the KNE Hall and how you came from them yes first of all we will explain to you that the knee Hall rays are not really a KNE Hall race but they are truly a future version of humans who have left their own planet in a desire to explore but to expand and to excite themselves in many different ways in in that form of excitement and expansion they found a star that in your perception is called beta Loris also known as knall and in that concept they connected to the physical star found a planet to inhabit and enter that planetary Consciousness during that period as we understood that you have heard or understood that two creative consciousnesses that are collective by Nature co-create with one another that the attributes of both of the energies will change um somewhat slightly all the way to very extremely and in this case due to the evolution of the co-creation the human entities then became much shorter in your essence they are approximately 3T 6 to 4T 2 and something that is in between this and in that creative efforts they desired to expand and after they learned much about what they could learn about their new solar system about the neighboring solar systems and in their perception the Universe At Large they became very connected and very spiritual now what we mean by very spiritual is they finally found a way to connect one entity to all entities they see the Oneness there was no divisionary uh energies or concepts within their race and at that time they begin to have ideas of how to share their Oneness with others if an other desired it and also devised or decided a way to co-create Upon A Certain larger level of Galactic Consciousness to share energies with him so seeking out one energy that they wish to heal more than any was the perception of negativity when it comes to reptilian entities knowing that humans have been harmed very deeply by at least three types of reptilian energies that the humans knew of before then and much after your now time period will come to understand reptilian energy more they took this one concept and built it into a way to heal now they searched the Galaxy for an energy that was reptilian in nature they also wanted to find an energy that was willing to co-create that experience with him so in searching they found an entity that was much as your lizards upon Earth or your reptilian entities and they took the DNA from that and mixed it with their own to create new third density Consciousness I see that race is the race that I now inhabit but the fifth dimensional or let us say fifth density version is more precise and in that fifth density version we look back at ourselves in third density and we do not see the human part of our lineage but we see the third density as humans would call it yet lineage and in that way by creating this race by nurturing it by teaching it it allowed these entities to decide and choose to be at one with one another which is against the Prototype if you will of reptilian energy in this galaxy or the way that reptilian energy manifest itself into the Galaxy and by going against that grain it opened an opportunity to not only expose the humans that remained on Earth or humans that were scattered throughout the Galaxy but also many other types of different races as Aven entities or other reptilian races as well this also gave way for the reptilian race that was new our own third density race to be an example for those entities that are perceived as type two who were not necessarily benevolent but working towards benevolent it gave them an example to be led by it gave them an energetic excitement to see that being a type one entity was possible so would your race be one of the first in the Galaxy if we’re looking at a linear evolutionary timeline of benevolent reptilians yes this is not necessarily the case okay it is the first recognized by the human race to a degree but there are also many that preceded Us in type one or benevolent type two it is just that the energy that is there is less noticeable it is much as if you see a silver penny in the midst of silver uh dimes you would not be very likely to notice it because it was not very seeable to the Galaxy due to the percentage of entities that are type two or strictly malevolent it is very difficult to discern the difference of energies and your race is a type one yes our own race is a type one energy which we believe has been expressed to you yes Rob explained that the other day um so to back up a little bit uh the knall when about I I guess what density were they when they created when they co-created this new race on another planet were they they were humans but at what density in that density they are at the end of the fourth density It Was a Race that was finishing their fourth density cycle entering the fifth and as they are finishing that they worked with directly with our race manifesting themselves both physically and psychically to connect to our race would with the knall um experience be similar yesterday ariff was talking about the a him coming from an ancient palladian race going off to a new planet and sort of starting their own thing would this be SAR could we compare the two yes it is very similar in the way that leaving one area of energy going to the next allows you to expand allows you to research more parts of your own energy because you know that co-creating with two collectives both the planetary Collective and the human collective in their new planet creates new energy it also creates a new experience to be had not just yes we are moving to a planet and yes we are doing new things but what we mean by this is a new manifestation for a Soul’s desire and a Soul’s ability to have a physical existence could you put a time frame years approximately on how long it took the human race to get to this neall uh fourth end of the fourth density evolutionary period to leave the planet to start elsewhere is yes if you are looking in the linear time humans in this point still have the ability to grow into that timeline of the KNE Hall race and in that Essence it is approximately 3,200 years from this point so in that case if in our history which we now are creating this history of treb visiting us and we stick to that timeline we will will literally be uh knowing sort of the that we will be going to do you know almost predicting the future in a way right now with this dialogue and this conversation yes in some ways it is well understood but understanding that in 3,200 years in your the near future although they would be aware of the host although they will be aware of me it will be at some level an obscurity in the larger Essence although people will understand what channeling is at that point although they understand there will be so many channelers between them and there that the host and my own self will not be buried at the bottom but will be less understood or less U known to most people and in that way although they understand energetically it will not interfere with any certain levels of energy unless the co-creative groups of entities that are collective by Nature come into awareness of the work and start to plan to do that by then but even then synchronicities find a way to either link them to that reality or to not depending upon their focus what we can tell you is that the entities that are connecting and growing as the knee hle will be well aware of positive reptilian energy well before then so it will not be a great surprise to anyone if someone were to bump in to this video audio recording in which we are creating today wow so and I was going to say you know moving forward in the future I would hope to and I’m sure Rob and many others watching this would hope to actually have more interactions potential physical interactions with the YY race and and by doing so I’m assuming would create a separate timeline that is not one uh of the kneal we would kind of have our a whole different experience is that correct in saying that yes that is very correct in saying this and understanding that although we are our own race although the knee hole was their own although you are your own the co-creation mechanism that started can allow how your experience not be the knee hle but still have the knee hole and myself within your awareness right has the KNE Hall ever come back in time to visit our current Collective Consciousness at yes in fact it is not the necessary nature to come look back at your race but their entirety of their race traveled backwards into time this is why although they are future humans this time in which they occurred and connected to the reptilian entities to create our race was considered your linear past our linear past okay wait I’m a little confused with that statement um the could you repeat it one more time and maybe let me digest it let me really focus on it say that yes what we are saying is that your future version which is the knee Hall r moved the entirety of their race backwards in linear time so that they may create an experience in where my own race and your race is speaking in the present right now with both of our consciousnesses in the present if you were to look at the concept of future humans being the knee hold and then in the future they create a race that is reptilian and then they evolve it would be several hundreds of thousands of years in the future but we are yet sitting in the same time and it is not just because I exist in any time I desire which is part of it but it is not the entirety of how our race was created and connected if you look at our timelines both the yet Collective and the human Collective are within the same time period um you’re saying Niha collect ly as a race kind of back themselves up in timelines and so they could interact with Humanity directly and indirectly by creating The Reptilian benevolent y race to help Humanity with its reptilian issues yes um this is uh somewhat appropriate perhaps in the concept of them going back in time this is correct but what we are saying more directly is due to circumstances within their own race the entirety of the race moved backwards into time not just for the reflection of humanity for that but for various other amounts of things they did not directly interact with the past versions of themselves but they did connect to them through creating our race our race was more than just the human Collective although that was in the front of their minds so to Simply put this the knee Hall moved back in time then developed us and then we grew and now we are within the same exact time period that you are now as you speak to entities you ask them in what time do you exist and some will answer 400 years in the future 5,000 years in your past but we exist not just because time dictates we are always in the now but linearly we are in your now moment as well that was going to be my following question um how many years so after the 30 was it 3200 years of the knall forming their new race how many years after that did it take to form your race but then you answered that question by saying the niho went back in time to sort of sync up this experience so yes um awesome so uh yes so that kind of leads me into the the next this next um series of question questions with this whole concept and even i h and many humans on this planet are have you know many people don’t even know about reptilians and could care less but many uh who are in spiritual communities and uh listen to uh different material from David Ike and others um sort of have this perception that The Reptilian Consciousness The Reptilian being have taken over our uh world and our governments and they’re very evil and they’re very bad and um even before going to see you and talked with you in Asheville North Carolina a while back I even had to kind of work through these um belief systems um that were that have been created through this Collective Consciousness idea that the reptilians are bad and they’re going to get us and here you are this Ling that is the total opposite of any kind of um evil Bad reptilian so um now I’m understanding that this is kind of by Design you’re you you’re you’re here connecting with us uh probably for many reasons but one of them being this kind of to help Humanity get over its uh Collective um ideas and belief systems over the negative reptilian experience yes this is a very true concept and very resonant to the way that we perceive our s sharing us with your own race in the way that we see there is a perception of perhaps negativity in your own race when it comes to reptilians but this is something that is within the Galaxy um for many humanoid races especially those that are either energetically linked to humanity or byproducts perhaps or perhaps descendants is a better way to express this of your own race so in that way there is a negative perception but also it comes to what you see and what you experience is within your perception realm which then becomes your reality and as we have expressed previously at least three reptilian races that humans are aware of now have had negative experiences in history with with humans but there is also a bigger concept that within this galaxy 80 to 85% of all reptilian energies or reptilian entities are of the polarity of either very negative in nature or how you would perceive negative malevolent would be a word that you would describe all the way up and entities that are more on the benevolence type two variety and everything thing that is within most of the 80 to 85% is within the malevolent to right below what you would consider a benevolent reptilian to be even though it is approximately the energy of how humans behave as a collective today some energies are indiff some are loving and some are separate but in that energy that describes the majority of reptilian energy within this galaxy so most most people Express if eight times out of 10 or nine times out of 10 I see something occur then that is my new reality and new belief therefore it is expressed and experienced as such is it true then that reptilians have come to this earth and mixed with humans and are sort of in the government and you know we hear you know the the the rulers of the world the Illuminati so to say and the Anunnaki we hear this term a lot is that a reptilian Consciousness is that what’s going on here yes and this is something that we speak of freely but we always um predetermined to express perhaps um disclaimer is the word that you use when thinking of these Concepts and ideas it creates a great deal of fear therefore we wish for you to listen more with your heart than your mind and by expressing this we will tell tell you um that you are very correct in this concept the entities that have exchanged energy with Humanity that have taught a system that is based upon fear or closing or division of Consciousness this is a very reptilian in nature the ones mostly responsible for this is what you would perceive to be the ancient reptilians or Alpha draconians are another term that is given for these entities these entities are the embodiment of complete disconnection within the spectrum of Consciousness when you see a type one race you see all that accept and love one another they see that the entity across from them is the same as they are that there is no division that there is complete Connection in actually a projection of what is within you and in the type two variety on the far end of the spectrum we see an energy that is divided themselves from every other thing in existence the only connection that they see is what they are able to draw within their mind such as the ancient reptilians have a very Fierce and great love for one another they treat each other with the utmost respect by human standards they are very nice and loving with one another but if they were to see someone that was outside of their agenda or outside of their own race they would not not uh consider their feelings they would be very happy to infringe upon the Free Will of those entities so in that Essence it is very reptilian in nature and yes it is very occurring in your Collective Consciousness but the division of this Consciousness comes from your own decision to be within your own self and to be excited and to see the Oneness that is within you manifested out to understand that all things outside of you are a reflection from what is within so if the Earth Collective Consciousness is manifesting a reality in where reptilians are co-creating laws and rules within their own environment that this means there is a part of you that is within that is fighting for Liberty that feels enslaved that does not feel as if they have the freedom they desire so the more that you see yourself as free the more that you see yourself as as non-dependent on rules and laws and see yourself as the ultimate creator of expansive energy of the galactic presence then you can shift yourself into a reality where The Reptilian presence is either no longer needed accepted or even if they are and they are standing next to you they cannot affect you exactly yeah that’s I’ll add to the disclaimer and based on my perception and teachings from yourself and another uh amazing channeled work is that yes we humans everything is a choice and we can choose to uh give away our power and uh have this reptilian experience this repti this uh Alpha Draconian because I I don’t want to ball all the reptilians in one category now um we could have this Alpha Draconian experience or we can have our own Sovereign Human Experience or whatever label you want to put on on it our own experience um type one I like the this type one uh idea we can be a type one or we can be a type two and it’s a choice and we’re now kind of at this crossroads right now where a lot of us humans are kind of deciding we don’t want to do the type two thing we want to stick we want to kind of go type one and there’s a a bit of a split because maybe some of the humans choose to stay in type two mentality is this is this what’s going on with the human consciousness right now yes this is very much aligned with the concepts that we have shared previously when you are seeing the type two energy you see that many humans are in that energy and even if you desire to shift into the type one you do not necessarily have to have the type two energy reflected into your environment and this is where it gets highly extensive in the concept of treating your own reality and creating aspects of your own Consciousness but in this way as you have spoken of the division of Two Worlds or two energies that concept is very simple in the way that humans can either experience their favorite manifestations of either going into a type one environment and being connected with all that is and growing in a collective way or they can go into reality where within their own Collective Consciousness there is a higher level of division but also a higher level of excitement for their division so either way you are looking at both of these as a reality just remind yourself that you can shift into any of those You decide and that within the two varieties we have given you there are literally infinite amounts of probabilities in a way to manifest both of these and one isn’t necessarily Better or Worse they’re both just choices neutral choices yes and this is something that we find very exciting for someone to express verbally as most entities have perceived the concept that if you are going into type two that it will be a very horrible and fearful and heish experience but it is not that um cut and dry it can be if you desire it to be but in that Division if you enjoy being yourself and if you enjoy separating yourself from other perhaps races or individuals or ideals or religion then perhaps this is a very way uh good road for you to go and it does not mean you’ll have a negative time in fact you may have just as good as a time as you would in the type one and the neutrality of the energy is all for you to Define yourself in a decision in action in a belief so that May manifest itself into any reality that fits you so one concept that we have shared more than anything is do not let your heart fret over the details just be yourself and your path is automatically chosen for you in each of your decisions and in each shift of energy and each moment exactly no I I I understand that concept very well and and am very uh allowing for those who choose to follow this more alpad Draconian path by all means please go and explore that and uh it’s not for me though and you know so like you’re saying we just we could be literally standing next to each other but because our vibrational frequencies are so different we won’t even kind of exist different realities this is very true we also wish to Express something that is a misconception of many humans that we have spoken to MH when you see a type one entity you see one type of entity one archetype of a character when you see type two you see a secondary archetype but what we can tell you is that the type one yes it is very similar in the mindset and the feeling so an archetype is very fitting for this but in the type two area the Arena of Consciousness and the Spectrum goes from a very disconnected embodiment such as the Draconian or the ancient reptilian energy all the way to the most loving human who still has problems with connecting themselves so if you see an entity that is very kind and gentle and loving but cannot find a way to integrate them into others lives or who hates a certain thing about their existence or a certain Persona or personage this is the spectrum that type two is so there are very many type two races that you interact with frequently who are loving who care about Humanity but just do not see the lack of division that there is within the entire consciousness of both the Galaxy and the universal Consciousness as well let’s see well that there’s something for everyone out there basically yeah yes so we just have to just follow like you said follow our own hearts and and that will take us closer to others who share those those uh same belief systems and same ideas and then we can just co-create with those people yes that is a very exciting concept and hopefully a very liberating one to many humans yes it has once I’ve really grasped this concept it’s been very liberating for me and uh I really enjoy you know not thinking the Illuminati or the lizards are going to get me and that kind of you know buying into that those ideas because you don’t have to live your life like that it’s not it’s not necessary yes and if you do decide to live your existence as that it is a very valuable experience for the over soul but ultimately it is your decision how to exchange belief systems one for the other other or how to live in lack of fear or an abundance of fear you mentioned that your race had expanded from I guess third density Consciousness to fifth density Consciousness because of a war and could you define how that Evolution happened how did what were the mechanisms that created this evolutionary jump and and shift in in Consciousness yes first of all we are going to set a reference for you that in a time period that we were third density into fourth we experienced a great deal of fearfulness and it was not set as a fear such as Humanity it was not as intense as the level of fear that Humanity often Springs to but in our fear we had understood that the alpha Draconian entities or the ancient rep Ians were placing very many post within the Galaxy for a war that was occurring elsewhere in that within our own star system there were already inhabitants of certain varieties of energies um that were tied to the reptilian or the ancient reptilian energy so as our race begin to fear it co-created an experience and where shifting into consciousness of for density we begin to draw in more of their Alpha Draconian energy on a co-creative level so as that begin to shift there was an attack that killed the majority of our planet’s race a very small number was left comparatively and in that feeling there was a great fear of sadness there was a great deal of disconnection there was a great deal of feeling sorry for ourselves and what we had experienced but after this there were a great deal of many races that were coming to our Aid at the knee hole as one of them giving us love giving us expressions of uh energy and both physical things that helped us with our recovery but in this concept after we rebuilt our society physically there were still emotional scars we still uh felt need for a defensive mechanism but in the time period where we finished rebuilding the majority of our own housing and uh some of the emotional scars we begin to have other reptilian races that poured into our own Planet because they understood that we were very open to reptilians that were of type one or of type two on the benevolent side of the energy so as we begin to have several different reptilian races what we were able to do is teach them and guide them into eating certain bacterial things or certain vegetables that we were able to grow we taught many of them Agriculture and how to stay away from eating other animals we taught them a great deal about meditation we taught them a great deal about expressions of Consciousness and how to tap into their third eye so as these refugees entered our planet we begin to co-create more energies with him and this caused a great healing within our own Hearts because we were able ble to give the positivity that was given to us by our uh fathering or mothering race if you will the knle we were able to express that into our own teachings to other races and that appreciation itself truly helped us heal the energetic shift from fourth density to fifth density when we were experiencing the great growth after the beginning of fourth density into the entirety we deel veloped a great releasing of great fears or great Mis or imbalances or misinterpretations of energy it gave us the great uh perception and thumbnail of how to achieve this I see so in essence your re recovery uh from this uh war or was it a war exactly were you fighting against them or did they just come and take what they want there were and what you would perceive aerial attacks where this was where most of the damage was done in the essence of fighting we always had trained ourselves in what you would perceive as a different style of martial arts but we had always used this for a fun factor for an excitement but after that we did develop an army that was willing to fight and we were attacked a few times afterwards by other um versions of the reptilians entities who worked directly for for the alha Draconian and were able to successfully defend our planet but that was because our fear was put behind us for the most part although there was some fear that caused the creation of the attacks there was a understanding and belief that we were possibly able to be attacked but in that effort we were able to overcome in whole the creation of that war so um the in the rebuilding and did did other entities Niall and other um uh G Galactic uh entities come to help you defend yourselves in the essence of defensive mechanisms there was no help as it was random in the first time and after that we took responsibility for our own well-being by changing our mental state after the refugees and many of the refugees that were there were coming from war in races that were very skilled at the Art of War and they taught us techniques and exchange for teaching them the meditation and expansion when you say refugees they were not from your race yes this is very true there were many different reptilian races in the most part there were three different reptilian races but in all Essence there was over 25 different races where small portions of them trickled inward oh so they you they started the visitations uh and you made contact outside of your race before the attack from the alpha draconians came um after the attack came after our planet was uh very deeply hurt and almost destroyed many entities around the Galaxy heard about our pains and suffering then they also heard afterwards that we had rebuil our society and that we were um very uh buoyant in the way that we expressed our Consciousness we were able to bounce back um but it’s not buoyancy but it is a bouncing of energy elasticity if you will so in that bouncing back the rumors came to many races that were also attacked that were reptilian in nature I and because of their loss of home they came to our planet to find help and to find protections I see and then in turn they helped sort of train you to defend yourselves a little bit better and then you train them to uh use your the mental capacity and and heart capacity to kind of dissipate the Waring energy yes that was not necessarily the intent it was just to teach them how to expand because of our love for them and because of our own desire to connect to them and after that energy dissipated after the fear was removed after we truly were aligned this is where we had officially become a type one race from a type two that was very benevolent so in a lot of ways this is almost like I use the Obi Obi-Wan Kenobi in Our Star Wars lore who kind of you know at the at his passing on he’s just stopped fighting realizing that you know we’re just wasting time you can’t fight the same energy as Albert Einstein says you cannot fix a problem with the same Consciousness that was used to create it is this this is essentially the evolution of Obi no Obi-Wan Kenobi and we’ve been hearing the same thing and I think you guys kind of went through the same idea right yes this is exactly the energy that resonated with us and that we were speaking of I see and then after connecting with these other beings uh you were able to really really work through this energy and then you elevate it into the fifth density Consciousness yes and more so we became a type one entity as well so is it possible to meet on a physical level yes if you are speaking of physically meet in your world in your awaken State the concept is that we must break our Consciousness into a portion to manifest a physical body that is more fitting for the Third for density exchange and once we are able to do that we would physically be able to come into your reality although it would not be our own physical body it would be a manifested body or manifested body this is very possible in that concept it is a division of cons Consciousness it is a division of abilities for understanding and the energy that is resonant and place it into a body that is also very fitting I see so for you it would be more like a holograph a hologram or for us too it would be a kind of a holographic image projection of your self yes this is one way to perceive it and in our way of perceiving it it would not be the full essence of who you know me to be in this moment but more so just a small portion or an avatar perhaps a better way to see I see yes well I hope someday I get to meet your avatar because that would be awesome uh or even I guess as Rob is having the conversation with you right now um in that fashion uh to be able to AST astrally project to your planet and uh meet you there too uh by any ways I do hope we have more conversations in the future um you’re a very loving soul and thank you for everything you’re doing for Humanity yes and I wish to express to you that it is a great excitement for us to communicate and co-create in this day and although most humans do not perceive me to be uh of getting help by talking to humans as they perceive me the one who gives all the help I wish to express to you that in our exchange of energy by the questions that you are asking and the parts of energy that I have not been asked by other entities before or just the way you express this it allows me to look into to an part of my own energy that I have not explored previously which allows me both to learn to expand at the same time you are and we are very grateful for this as well we wish to express you that we will leave you this day and love and inl light and we will experience each other again very soon thank you thank you treb yes good night good night how it go how was how was it how was fishing yeah it was great it was
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