Key Takeaways:
"CRAZY Conspiracies Behind JonBenet Ramsey's TRAGIC Death" Transcript: "I want to get into some of the conspiracies this is kind of like the freaky portion of the podcast where people have really gone on and did something with what they believe could have happened and maybe some of them are true so um I want to go through them and I want to hear what you guys think in the comments below because you know I love a good conspiracy theory but I'm also like a I like to think I'm a rational thinker so I'm pretty hard to please now a lot of people talk about an intruder which I think is probably the leading theory in this case that there was an unknown Intruder that gained entry into the house through the basement window they went up and carried John B down to the basement and killed her now critics of the Intruder Theory point to the undisturbed cobwebs and dust around the basement window the ramsy lived in a fluent neighborhood but they had a history of burglaries in the last months before her murder blood and a bootprint were found at the crime scene that did not match anyone in the family now let's get into these monsters who like to claim that they're the person responsible for her death like this guy Gary Olivia he's already in jail serving a 10-year sentence for possession of inappropriate material involving children he was caught confessing to this murder through letters he had written to a former classmate he wrote I never loved anyone like I did John Benet and I let her slip and her head bashed in half and I watched her die it was an accident please believe me she was not like the other kids he writes John Benet completely changed me and removed all evil from me just one look at her beautiful face her glowing beautiful skin her Divine God body Jesus this guy's nasty I realized I was wrong to kill other kids yet by accident she died and it was my fault now Gary is writing these letters to his buddy Michael and Michael isn't too fond of it actually Michael has had a feeling that Gary's been responsible for her death for a long time this report writes that Michael has suspected his old high school buddy of killing Jan for the last 22 years ever since he received a disturbing phone call from Gary shortly after the murder and before the case made national headlines which would be really interesting I mean how would this guy Gary know about this case before the world did Michael shares my suspicions began when Gary called me late at night on December 26th 1996 he was sobbing and he said I heard a little girl I tried to get more information out of him Michael says the only other thing he told me was that he was in Boulder Colorado now on December 27th I read the front page of my local newspaper girl 6 slain in Boulder Colorado I immediately called the Boulder Police Department and told them what I knew about Gary and what he had told me just days earlier but they didn't get back to me 3 months later I called the police again to find out what was going on in its investigation of Gary but instead I was sent to a police answering machine set up for tips on the John Benet case I left a message on the recorded line and again I never heard back from investigators which is so frustrating because I feel like a lot of times there could be Justice in certain cases if the police actually use the resources they're putting out there I mean don't create a tip line if you're not going to go and listen to the tips the man who received those letters from Gary Leva his former classmate Michael veil was he always a little different we knew there was something wrong with Gary in fact we called him Scary Gary he was known for breaking into places and getting art supplies I mean he could break in and steal things you remember a phone call you get that's terrifying you remember it you remember the room you're in when you get that phone call it was December 26th and it was about midnight and I get that phone call and it's and it's Gary's voice and he's like but he's like oh I just hurt oh oh little girl oh oh like it was the most Terri I'm getting Goosebumps just now telling you guys this because it was terrifying I immediately jumped into protective mode where are you what's your address what's your phone number and he kind of caught on to me but he told me he was in Boulder when I was like Boulder why would you be in Boulder you've been sending me mail for 16 years from Oregon he hung the phone up uh when I'm trying to get information this guy gives me the major creeps I mean jump scare just look at him back in 1996 Gary was registered as an s oh sex offender whose listed address was not far from the ramsy home and he reportedly attended a candle light viil shortly after her murder which I've heard that before too that the killer will actually go like participate in like the investigation or the search or the kelate vigil they didn't consider him a suspect until the year 2000 when he was arrested on an unrelated charge and police found a photo of John banet a poem he had written titled owed to John Benet [ __ ] me he's so creepy and a stun gun among other possessions there's actually theories that this stun gun may have been used to subdued John Benet on the night of the murder which when I hear stun gun I think of like a taser like a loud taser that electrifies you so I feel like it's not very quiet if you're trying to subdue her eventually investigators lost interest in Gary when new DNA testing methods failed to match his DNA to the crime scene evidence but we have to remember that the police did not preserve this crime scene properly so I still think that Gary could be a suspect many others also agree that Gary could be a suspect I mean they believe that the police had put too much emphasis on DNA matches especially for the time period it is interesting that they are running this DNA and then just like checking out I mean it it doesn't seem like they're doing their due diligence especially if DNA is not like Advanced enough to use it then why are we using it to determine whether someone's like probable or not whether they could be the killer or not it just kind of seems like it doesn't make sense like okay so it's not Advanced enough to actually use but then when we do use it and it fails us we just kind of write it off well how do you know that it's Advanced enough to even tell you that you're wrong Michael claims that he's still fighting the good fight and he wants to see Gary charged he has actually sent these letters to the police department and hopes that this could be a written confession which I think that's such a smart tactic I mean he wrote these letters to you about this case conf confessing to it I mean it soundss like a written confession if you add it up Gary has been behind bars in Colorado since 2016 when he was arrested for having inappropriate content of children this guy is like the worst type of person that could exist on the face of the Earth Gary wrote a letter to Michael saying I pled guilty to the murder of John Benet as well as countless charges of assaults and harm against many children there were various agreements made by me and the court which I signed many pages now this is an absolute lie he never actually came to such plea agreement but there does seem to be a long Obsession that Gary has with uh John Bonet ramsy and um that that to me is like enough of a red flag to continue to consider him I mean I think it's different if there's like a creepy guy that is obsessed with her who kind of got introduced to the Kee through the media but the fact that this guy was aware of her death before everyone else was I think that that's right there like I mean how would can someone explain that how would he even know to go and tell Michael that he had done something wrong to a girl in Boulder Colorado a convicted has written incriminating letters his name is Gary Oliva he likes pictures of little kids child we know that for a fact okay so that gets them in into the you know into the sphere of people who could potentially be responsible for all this now he he's written a series of letters including ones where he has admitted taking the life of John Benet Ramsey that's one of many letters that Gary Aliva has written through the years this to Michael Veil now the police have put out a statement when it comes to Gary quote the Boulder Police Department is aware of Gary Olivia and has investigated his potential involvement in this case including several previous confessions the department routinely receives information on this investigation information provided to Police Department is reviewed along with many tips and theories we received there are no new updates in this investigation in the department will not comment further in my opinion it looks like the pressure the Press had put on the department kind of led to them answering so maybe they are taking this situation more seriously but I also think they could have done some investigating could have already determined that he's lying he's mentally ill he's just you know out there I mean God he's and the children so I mean look at him jeez so maybe they have information that shows that Gary Olivia isn't responsible which I kind of doubt but can see them withholding this just in case he is responsible they don't want to put out a statement clearing him and then embarrassingly having to acknowledge that they were wrong now let's get into those conspiracies that live on the internet and that will probably end up dying on the internet as well like that some people think that Katy Perry is John Bonet ramsy I mean the fact that her body was found I just don't like quite understand how this could be true they write John B Ramsay was not killed that night she was kidnapped her parents staged her death and she later resurfaced as say Katy Perry in 2008 with the song I Kissed girl really isn't Katy Perry also older than like 1990 oh no I guess she would be 6 years old in 1986 okay so then she would have been born in 1990 but I I thought Katy bar I guess she is 34 huh there evidence includes the fact that I guess they look alike like Katy Perry and John pan have a resemblance one YouTuber went to Great Lengths to prove the similarities in their eyebrows which mean they must be the same person I mean really there's a lot of people who look light but a different YouTuber points out one of the lines in Katy Perry's Memoir she wrote in reference to writing songs at an early age saying not that I was one of those stage kids there was no John Benet Ramsay inside of me waiting to burst out now if she was really John banet then why would she make this reference well according to the YouTuber the Illuminati always puts its Clues out in plain sight so there I guess she's trying to elude and like to hint that she could actually be this young girl so it seems like this conspiracy started from a YouTube channel so that's where they birthed this idea that Katy Perry is John B ramsy but the story eventually gained enough traction for entertainment news sites to start covering it in February 2016 and Katy Perry even referenced it at the VMAs that year blink twice if you're really John B Ramsey uh wait no that's not real I knew it I'm taking it to TMZ you need the money or something I mean come on the theory is that John B Ramsey's Family actually faked her death to get her out of Patrick because she's being stalked by schmal Smiles then she was groomed to become Katy Perry okay here are their faces meshed together I mean it does it looks exactly alike I'm not going to lie it looks exactly alike here's John B's parents and Katy Perry's parents they look alike I mean mama look a little skinny and daddy ain't got no hair but they look like they could be the same person they do look like they could be the same person then somebody else said check the eyebrows the eyebrows do look similar with the big butt is didn't they find the body and she had autopsy and all that the real conspiracy is how Katy Perry been famous this long that's what I'm saying like we have a body and Katy Perry has a past now I'm not saying she's not part of the Illuminati let's just not even go there that's a whole other video but Kitty Barry had a Christian pop album her name's Katie Hudson she released her music in 2001 when she was 17 John Bain would have been 11 years old please it's also not like Katy Perry just appeared out of nowhere again she was a Christian pop singer until she became whatever you want to call her now a pop singer you know she's a pop singer but there's darker conspiracies out there one that involves Epstein now a woman who closely resembles Epstein sidekick GLA Maxwell was seen in the background of what was supposedly the last photo of John B Ramsey alive the theory received a great deal of traction on Tik Tok where the image supposedly showing Glen Maxwell in the background was sometimes shared with a #p we have to be careful with some of the things we say Here on YouTube but here's the image that went viral now now this photo is not the last known image of John Bonet Ramsay it is in fact a genuine photo of her but the theory was given Credence when the internet detective sleuthed that glain Maxwell and the Ramsey family were both repped by the same Law Firm a denver-based firm Haden Morgan and foran and for whatever reason it looks like this Law Firm likes to represent sketchy people I'm talking Harvey Weinstein Charlie Sheen so I don't know why the ramsy family needs this kind of representation I'm like 99% sure her so back when the case was happening the family hired a law firm to protect themselves this is the law firm they hired and guess which law firm galain Maxwell is currently using this law firm and I get it it could be a coincidence but still it's kind of weird and then as soon as his wife passed away in 2006 John Ramsay began dating drum roll Beth Halloway her daughter Natalie hallay she disappeared many years ago and she's believed to be trafficked by many people and guess which law firm Beth Holloway was using now this conspiracy has gone mainstream because an an documentary called hunting John B's killer actually brought up this Theory with glain Maxwell but there's again zero evidence so I feel like it kind of like sensationalizes this like case opposed to like honing in on the facts like let's talk about Gary let's not talk about the Epstein though I do think it's weird that they have the same Law Firm like let's note it but I don't think it's something we get to lead with especially when we do have the body thank you for watching this clip from the let's get into a podcast to view the full episode visit the link listed below"
Theories on JonBenet Ramsey’s Death:
Intruder Theory: Most widely accepted theory suggests an intruder killed JonBenet Ramsey. However, the presence of undisturbed cobwebs and dust around the basement window where the intruder allegedly entered challenges this theory.
Gary Olivia’s Confession: Gary Olivia, a convicted sex offender, claimed responsibility in letters to a former classmate. Despite his confession, his DNA did not match the crime scene evidence, leading investigators to lose interest.
Police Inefficiency: There are multiple instances where police seemingly ignored crucial tips and did not follow up on leads, raising concerns about the effectiveness of the investigation.
Obscure/Abstract Facts:
Conspiracies:
Some believe JonBenet Ramsey wasn’t killed but was kidnapped and resurfaced as pop star Katy Perry. This theory is based on physical resemblance and eyebrow similarities, but it’s widely discredited.
A woman resembling Ghislaine Maxwell was allegedly seen in a photo of JonBenet, fueling theories of connections between the Ramsey family and known criminals like Epstein.
Strange Coincidences:
The Ramsey family and Ghislaine Maxwell were represented by the same law firm, which also represented other high-profile, controversial figures.
JonBenet’s father, John Ramsey, dated Beth Holloway, the mother of missing teen Natalee Holloway, after the death of his wife.
Hierarchical Bullet Points:
Main Theories:
Intruder Theory:
Belief that an unknown intruder entered through the basement window.
Counterpoints include undisturbed cobwebs and dust.
Evidence of blood and a bootprint not matching the family.
Gary Olivia:
Convicted sex offender with a history of inappropriate behavior.
Confessed to JonBenet’s murder in letters to a former classmate.
Known for erratic behavior, including attending a candlelight vigil after the murder.
Police disregarded his confession due to a lack of DNA match, raising questions about investigation methods.
Conspiracy Theories:
Katy Perry Theory:
Claim that JonBenet Ramsey faked her death and became pop star Katy Perry.
Similarities in appearance, particularly eyebrows, fuel this theory.
Discredited due to JonBenet’s confirmed death and autopsy.
Ghislaine Maxwell Theory:
Alleged appearance of Maxwell in a photo with JonBenet.
Connections between the Ramsey family and Epstein’s associates through shared legal representation.
No concrete evidence supports this theory.
Police and Investigation Criticisms:
Ignored Tips:
Reports of police not following up on tips, especially concerning Gary Olivia.
Frustration with the lack of response from the Boulder Police Department.
DNA Evidence:
Debate over the reliability of DNA testing at the time.
Questions about the preservation of the crime scene and its impact on the investigation.
Unusual Coincidences:
Legal Representation:
The Ramsey family, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Beth Holloway used the same law firm.
Raises suspicions but lacks substantial evidence.
Conclusion:
The overall theme of the discussion revolves around the mysterious and tragic death of JonBenet Ramsey, exploring various theories ranging from the plausible to the bizarre. While the Intruder Theory and Gary Olivia’s confession remain central to the narrative, the podcast delves into obscure conspiracy theories, including the wild idea that JonBenet became pop star Katy Perry. The critique of the police investigation highlights potential missteps and raises questions about whether justice was ever fully pursued. The discussion reflects society's fascination with unsolved cases and the human tendency to seek meaning or patterns, even in the most improbable scenarios.
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Theories on JonBenet Ramsey’s Death:
Intruder Theory:
This is the most prominent theory. It posits that an unknown intruder broke into the Ramsey household through a basement window, kidnapped JonBenet, and subsequently murdered her in the basement.
The theory is supported by evidence such as a bootprint and a blood sample found at the scene, neither of which matched any family members.
However, this theory is contested by the fact that the basement window was surrounded by undisturbed cobwebs and dust, suggesting it was not used to gain entry. Additionally, the Ramsey home was in an affluent neighborhood, yet had experienced burglaries in the months leading up to the murder.
Gary Olivia’s Confession:
Gary Olivia, a convicted sex offender, wrote disturbing letters to his former classmate, Michael Veil, in which he confessed to accidentally killing JonBenet.
Olivia described his emotional turmoil, claiming JonBenet was different from other children and that her death was an accident.
Despite his confession, police did not consider him a primary suspect due to a lack of matching DNA evidence at the crime scene.
Olivia's confession also included highly graphic and unsettling details about his alleged involvement, which heightened suspicion but ultimately did not lead to charges.
Police Investigation Criticisms:
Ignored Tips and Leads:
Michael Veil reported Gary Olivia’s confession to the police shortly after the murder, but his tips were seemingly ignored. He left multiple messages with the Boulder Police Department, yet never received a follow-up.
There is a general sense of frustration with how the Boulder Police Department handled the case, particularly their apparent negligence in investigating Olivia’s claims thoroughly.
DNA Testing Issues:
The police’s reliance on DNA evidence was a significant point of contention. At the time, DNA testing methods were not as advanced as they are today, leading to questions about the accuracy of the results.
Critics argue that dismissing suspects based on DNA evidence alone was premature, especially given the possibility that the crime scene was not properly preserved.
Expanded Obscure/Abstract Facts:
Conspiracy Theories:
Katy Perry Theory:
A highly speculative theory suggests that JonBenet Ramsey did not die but was instead groomed by her parents to become pop star Katy Perry.
Proponents of this theory point to physical similarities between JonBenet and Katy Perry, particularly their eyebrows, as evidence.
The theory gained traction through YouTube videos and conspiracy websites, despite being widely debunked. Katy Perry herself referenced the conspiracy at the VMAs in 2016, mocking the idea.
Ghislaine Maxwell Connection:
Another conspiracy theory suggests that Ghislaine Maxwell, a known associate of Jeffrey Epstein, was somehow involved in JonBenet’s death.
This theory stems from a photograph in which a woman resembling Maxwell appears in the background. This image was incorrectly labeled as the last photo of JonBenet alive, further fueling speculation.
The theory gained attention on social media platforms like TikTok, where users pointed out that both the Ramsey family and Maxwell were represented by the same law firm, Hayden Morgan and Foran.
While intriguing, there is no concrete evidence to support this theory, and it remains largely speculative.
Expanded Police and Investigation Criticisms:
Police’s Handling of Gary Olivia:
Despite Gary Olivia’s disturbing letters and confession, the police did not prioritize him as a suspect. This decision has been widely criticized, especially given Olivia’s proximity to the crime scene and his known criminal background.
Critics argue that the police were too quick to dismiss Olivia due to the lack of DNA evidence, overlooking other circumstantial evidence that could have linked him to the crime.
Crime Scene Preservation:
The crime scene in the Ramsey household was not properly secured, leading to contamination of evidence. This mismanagement has been cited as a significant factor in the case remaining unsolved.
The poor handling of the crime scene raises questions about whether critical evidence was lost or compromised, hindering the investigation from the start.
Expanded Unusual Coincidences:
Shared Legal Representation:
The fact that the Ramsey family, Ghislaine Maxwell, and other controversial figures like Harvey Weinstein and Charlie Sheen were all represented by the same law firm has led to further speculation about potential connections between these cases.
This coincidence, while intriguing, lacks direct evidence to suggest any meaningful link between the Ramsey case and other high-profile legal battles.
John Ramsey and Beth Holloway:
After the death of JonBenet’s mother, John Ramsey began dating Beth Holloway, the mother of Natalee Holloway, who went missing in Aruba in 2005.
This relationship has added another layer of intrigue, given that both families have been involved in high-profile cases with tragic outcomes.
The connection between these two families, along with their shared use of the same law firm, has fueled conspiracy theories, despite the lack of substantial evidence.
Conclusion:
The transcript reveals a complex web of theories, suspicions, and conspiracies surrounding the death of JonBenet Ramsey. At its core, the discussion focuses on the tragic event itself and the various explanations that have emerged over the years. While the Intruder Theory and Gary Olivia’s confession are the most grounded in evidence, the conversation also delves into more outlandish and speculative ideas, such as JonBenet becoming Katy Perry or connections to Jeffrey Epstein’s network. The overall theme reflects society’s obsession with unresolved mysteries and the tendency to create elaborate narratives in the absence of definitive answers. The case remains a symbol of both the potential for investigative failures and the enduring allure of conspiracy theories in the public imagination.
Additional Intruder Theory Details:
Window Grate and Suitcase:
A suitcase was found beneath the broken basement window, which some speculate was placed there by the intruder as a means of exiting the house with JonBenet. However, others argue it could have been placed there by a family member previously.
Stun Gun Theory:
The marks found on JonBenet’s body have been theorized by some to be consistent with the use of a stun gun. This theory is used to support the idea that an intruder may have used the device to subdue her.
Despite the marks, no stun gun was ever recovered, and the theory remains speculative without concrete evidence.
Additional Details on Gary Olivia:
Mental Illness and Past Behavior:
Gary Olivia has a history of mental illness, and his criminal record includes a series of offenses related to child abuse and sexual assault.
He was known in his community as "Scary Gary" due to his erratic behavior and disturbing actions, which included breaking into homes and stealing items like art supplies.
Inconsistent Statements:
While Olivia confessed to JonBenet’s murder in letters, his statements were inconsistent and often contradictory. This led investigators to question the credibility of his confessions.
Despite these inconsistencies, some argue that Olivia’s obsession with JonBenet and his proximity to the crime scene should not be dismissed lightly.
Additional Police Investigation Criticisms:
Police Focus on the Ramsey Family:
The Boulder Police Department initially focused heavily on the Ramsey family as suspects, which some believe caused them to overlook other potential leads, including the intruder theory and suspects like Gary Olivia.
The intense media scrutiny and public pressure may have influenced the direction of the investigation, leading to biases in how evidence was interpreted and pursued.
Failure to Secure the Crime Scene:
The failure to secure the crime scene allowed multiple people, including friends and family, to move through the house before evidence could be properly collected. This likely contaminated key pieces of evidence, making it difficult to draw clear conclusions from the physical evidence.
Additional Conspiracy Theories:
Ramsey Family Involvement:
A theory suggests that JonBenet’s parents, particularly her mother, Patsy Ramsey, were involved in her death, either accidentally or intentionally. This theory often points to the ransom note found in the house, which some believe was written by Patsy.
Handwriting analysis has been inconclusive, with experts unable to definitively link the note to Patsy, though some similarities have been noted.
Foreign Faction Theory:
The ransom note left in the Ramsey home claimed to be from a “small foreign faction,” leading to speculation about a possible international connection or a kidnapping plot gone wrong.
Despite the note’s claims, no evidence has ever been found to support the existence of such a group, and the note is widely considered to be a red herring or part of a staged crime scene.
Additional Unusual Coincidences:
Ramsey Family’s Public Appearances:
The Ramsey family’s decision to conduct public interviews and appearances in the days following JonBenet’s death has been criticized and scrutinized. Some view their behavior as suspicious, while others believe they were trying to clear their names in the face of mounting public suspicion.
Media’s Role in the Case:
The media played a significant role in shaping public perception of the case, often sensationalizing details and promoting unverified theories. This contributed to the widespread belief in various conspiracies and made it difficult for the investigation to proceed without external pressures.
Additional Details on the Katy Perry Theory:
Eyewitness Testimonies:
Despite the outlandish nature of the Katy Perry theory, some proponents point to vague similarities in physical appearance and mannerisms between JonBenet and Perry, as well as the timing of Perry’s rise to fame, as potential evidence.
The theory has been largely discredited by experts and dismissed by Perry herself, yet it remains a popular topic among conspiracy theorists.
Additional Information on the Epstein Connection:
Connections to Elite Networks:
The theory linking JonBenet Ramsey’s death to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell taps into broader conspiracy narratives involving elite networks, secret societies, and trafficking rings.
While these connections are speculative and lack concrete evidence, they reflect a growing distrust in powerful individuals and institutions, particularly in cases involving unresolved crimes.
Conclusion (Expanded):
The JonBenet Ramsey case remains one of the most enigmatic and controversial unsolved murders in American history. The transcript not only highlights the primary theories surrounding her death, such as the Intruder Theory and Gary Olivia’s confessions, but also delves into the more abstract and bizarre conspiracy theories that have emerged over the years. The case is a potent mix of genuine investigative challenges, potential police missteps, and the public’s fascination with dark and complex narratives. This fascination is evident in the persistence of outlandish theories, from Katy Perry’s alleged transformation to ties with Epstein’s notorious network. The overall theme of the transcript underscores society’s struggle to reconcile the desire for justice and closure with the tantalizing allure of conspiracy, where even the most far-fetched ideas find a willing audience in the absence of definitive answers.
"CRAZY Conspiracies Behind JonBenet Ramsey's TRAGIC Death" Transcript: "I want to get into some of the conspiracies this is kind of like the freaky portion of the podcast where people have really gone on and did something with what they believe could have happened and maybe some of them are true so um I want to go through them and I want to hear what you guys think in the comments below because you know I love a good conspiracy theory but I'm also like a I like to think I'm a rational thinker so I'm pretty hard to please now a lot of people talk about an intruder which I think is probably the leading theory in this case that there was an unknown Intruder that gained entry into the house through the basement window they went up and carried John B down to the basement and killed her now critics of the Intruder Theory point to the undisturbed cobwebs and dust around the basement window the ramsy lived in a fluent neighborhood but they had a history of burglaries in the last months before her murder blood and a bootprint were found at the crime scene that did not match anyone in the family now let's get into these monsters who like to claim that they're the person responsible for her death like this guy Gary Olivia he's already in jail serving a 10-year sentence for possession of inappropriate material involving children he was caught confessing to this murder through letters he had written to a former classmate he wrote I never loved anyone like I did John Benet and I let her slip and her head bashed in half and I watched her die it was an accident please believe me she was not like the other kids he writes John Benet completely changed me and removed all evil from me just one look at her beautiful face her glowing beautiful skin her Divine God body Jesus this guy's nasty I realized I was wrong to kill other kids yet by accident she died and it was my fault now Gary is writing these letters to his buddy Michael and Michael isn't too fond of it actually Michael has had a feeling that Gary's been responsible for her death for a long time this report writes that Michael has suspected his old high school buddy of killing Jan for the last 22 years ever since he received a disturbing phone call from Gary shortly after the murder and before the case made national headlines which would be really interesting I mean how would this guy Gary know about this case before the world did Michael shares my suspicions began when Gary called me late at night on December 26th 1996 he was sobbing and he said I heard a little girl I tried to get more information out of him Michael says the only other thing he told me was that he was in Boulder Colorado now on December 27th I read the front page of my local newspaper girl 6 slain in Boulder Colorado I immediately called the Boulder Police Department and told them what I knew about Gary and what he had told me just days earlier but they didn't get back to me 3 months later I called the police again to find out what was going on in its investigation of Gary but instead I was sent to a police answering machine set up for tips on the John Benet case I left a message on the recorded line and again I never heard back from investigators which is so frustrating because I feel like a lot of times there could be Justice in certain cases if the police actually use the resources they're putting out there I mean don't create a tip line if you're not going to go and listen to the tips the man who received those letters from Gary Leva his former classmate Michael veil was he always a little different we knew there was something wrong with Gary in fact we called him Scary Gary he was known for breaking into places and getting art supplies I mean he could break in and steal things you remember a phone call you get that's terrifying you remember it you remember the room you're in when you get that phone call it was December 26th and it was about midnight and I get that phone call and it's and it's Gary's voice and he's like but he's like oh I just hurt oh oh little girl oh oh like it was the most Terri I'm getting Goosebumps just now telling you guys this because it was terrifying I immediately jumped into protective mode where are you what's your address what's your phone number and he kind of caught on to me but he told me he was in Boulder when I was like Boulder why would you be in Boulder you've been sending me mail for 16 years from Oregon he hung the phone up uh when I'm trying to get information this guy gives me the major creeps I mean jump scare just look at him back in 1996 Gary was registered as an s oh sex offender whose listed address was not far from the ramsy home and he reportedly attended a candle light viil shortly after her murder which I've heard that before too that the killer will actually go like participate in like the investigation or the search or the kelate vigil they didn't consider him a suspect until the year 2000 when he was arrested on an unrelated charge and police found a photo of John banet a poem he had written titled owed to John Benet [ __ ] me he's so creepy and a stun gun among other possessions there's actually theories that this stun gun may have been used to subdued John Benet on the night of the murder which when I hear stun gun I think of like a taser like a loud taser that electrifies you so I feel like it's not very quiet if you're trying to subdue her eventually investigators lost interest in Gary when new DNA testing methods failed to match his DNA to the crime scene evidence but we have to remember that the police did not preserve this crime scene properly so I still think that Gary could be a suspect many others also agree that Gary could be a suspect I mean they believe that the police had put too much emphasis on DNA matches especially for the time period it is interesting that they are running this DNA and then just like checking out I mean it it doesn't seem like they're doing their due diligence especially if DNA is not like Advanced enough to use it then why are we using it to determine whether someone's like probable or not whether they could be the killer or not it just kind of seems like it doesn't make sense like okay so it's not Advanced enough to actually use but then when we do use it and it fails us we just kind of write it off well how do you know that it's Advanced enough to even tell you that you're wrong Michael claims that he's still fighting the good fight and he wants to see Gary charged he has actually sent these letters to the police department and hopes that this could be a written confession which I think that's such a smart tactic I mean he wrote these letters to you about this case conf confessing to it I mean it soundss like a written confession if you add it up Gary has been behind bars in Colorado since 2016 when he was arrested for having inappropriate content of children this guy is like the worst type of person that could exist on the face of the Earth Gary wrote a letter to Michael saying I pled guilty to the murder of John Benet as well as countless charges of assaults and harm against many children there were various agreements made by me and the court which I signed many pages now this is an absolute lie he never actually came to such plea agreement but there does seem to be a long Obsession that Gary has with uh John Bonet ramsy and um that that to me is like enough of a red flag to continue to consider him I mean I think it's different if there's like a creepy guy that is obsessed with her who kind of got introduced to the Kee through the media but the fact that this guy was aware of her death before everyone else was I think that that's right there like I mean how would can someone explain that how would he even know to go and tell Michael that he had done something wrong to a girl in Boulder Colorado a convicted has written incriminating letters his name is Gary Oliva he likes pictures of little kids child we know that for a fact okay so that gets them in into the you know into the sphere of people who could potentially be responsible for all this now he he's written a series of letters including ones where he has admitted taking the life of John Benet Ramsey that's one of many letters that Gary Aliva has written through the years this to Michael Veil now the police have put out a statement when it comes to Gary quote the Boulder Police Department is aware of Gary Olivia and has investigated his potential involvement in this case including several previous confessions the department routinely receives information on this investigation information provided to Police Department is reviewed along with many tips and theories we received there are no new updates in this investigation in the department will not comment further in my opinion it looks like the pressure the Press had put on the department kind of led to them answering so maybe they are taking this situation more seriously but I also think they could have done some investigating could have already determined that he's lying he's mentally ill he's just you know out there I mean God he's and the children so I mean look at him jeez so maybe they have information that shows that Gary Olivia isn't responsible which I kind of doubt but can see them withholding this just in case he is responsible they don't want to put out a statement clearing him and then embarrassingly having to acknowledge that they were wrong now let's get into those conspiracies that live on the internet and that will probably end up dying on the internet as well like that some people think that Katy Perry is John Bonet ramsy I mean the fact that her body was found I just don't like quite understand how this could be true they write John B Ramsay was not killed that night she was kidnapped her parents staged her death and she later resurfaced as say Katy Perry in 2008 with the song I Kissed girl really isn't Katy Perry also older than like 1990 oh no I guess she would be 6 years old in 1986 okay so then she would have been born in 1990 but I I thought Katy bar I guess she is 34 huh there evidence includes the fact that I guess they look alike like Katy Perry and John pan have a resemblance one YouTuber went to Great Lengths to prove the similarities in their eyebrows which mean they must be the same person I mean really there's a lot of people who look light but a different YouTuber points out one of the lines in Katy Perry's Memoir she wrote in reference to writing songs at an early age saying not that I was one of those stage kids there was no John Benet Ramsay inside of me waiting to burst out now if she was really John banet then why would she make this reference well according to the YouTuber the Illuminati always puts its Clues out in plain sight so there I guess she's trying to elude and like to hint that she could actually be this young girl so it seems like this conspiracy started from a YouTube channel so that's where they birthed this idea that Katy Perry is John B ramsy but the story eventually gained enough traction for entertainment news sites to start covering it in February 2016 and Katy Perry even referenced it at the VMAs that year blink twice if you're really John B Ramsey uh wait no that's not real I knew it I'm taking it to TMZ you need the money or something I mean come on the theory is that John B Ramsey's Family actually faked her death to get her out of Patrick because she's being stalked by schmal Smiles then she was groomed to become Katy Perry okay here are their faces meshed together I mean it does it looks exactly alike I'm not going to lie it looks exactly alike here's John B's parents and Katy Perry's parents they look alike I mean mama look a little skinny and daddy ain't got no hair but they look like they could be the same person they do look like they could be the same person then somebody else said check the eyebrows the eyebrows do look similar with the big butt is didn't they find the body and she had autopsy and all that the real conspiracy is how Katy Perry been famous this long that's what I'm saying like we have a body and Katy Perry has a past now I'm not saying she's not part of the Illuminati let's just not even go there that's a whole other video but Kitty Barry had a Christian pop album her name's Katie Hudson she released her music in 2001 when she was 17 John Bain would have been 11 years old please it's also not like Katy Perry just appeared out of nowhere again she was a Christian pop singer until she became whatever you want to call her now a pop singer you know she's a pop singer but there's darker conspiracies out there one that involves Epstein now a woman who closely resembles Epstein sidekick GLA Maxwell was seen in the background of what was supposedly the last photo of John B Ramsey alive the theory received a great deal of traction on Tik Tok where the image supposedly showing Glen Maxwell in the background was sometimes shared with a #p we have to be careful with some of the things we say Here on YouTube but here's the image that went viral now now this photo is not the last known image of John Bonet Ramsay it is in fact a genuine photo of her but the theory was given Credence when the internet detective sleuthed that glain Maxwell and the Ramsey family were both repped by the same Law Firm a denver-based firm Haden Morgan and foran and for whatever reason it looks like this Law Firm likes to represent sketchy people I'm talking Harvey Weinstein Charlie Sheen so I don't know why the ramsy family needs this kind of representation I'm like 99% sure her so back when the case was happening the family hired a law firm to protect themselves this is the law firm they hired and guess which law firm galain Maxwell is currently using this law firm and I get it it could be a coincidence but still it's kind of weird and then as soon as his wife passed away in 2006 John Ramsay began dating drum roll Beth Halloway her daughter Natalie hallay she disappeared many years ago and she's believed to be trafficked by many people and guess which law firm Beth Holloway was using now this conspiracy has gone mainstream because an an documentary called hunting John B's killer actually brought up this Theory with glain Maxwell but there's again zero evidence so I feel like it kind of like sensationalizes this like case opposed to like honing in on the facts like let's talk about Gary let's not talk about the Epstein though I do think it's weird that they have the same Law Firm like let's note it but I don't think it's something we get to lead with especially when we do have the body thank you for watching this clip from the let's get into a podcast to view the full episode visit the link listed below"
