Interesting. >> So, Nick, at this point in your life, looking looking around, does anything human make it out of the near future? um [music] forms of [music] zeno intelligence actually are able to retrochronically inject cognitive material [music] into ancient cultures. It’s impossible on certain philosophical grounds to simply subscribe to this anthropomorphic anthropomorphic future. It just doesn’t make sense. It just shows a certain lack of understanding about what people mean by super intelligence, about what robotics promises. Hello everybody. How are you doing? You all right? Today we’re going to be taking a look at one of the deepest and most terrifying rabbit holes I’ve ever covered on this channel and investigating a man named Nick Land. He is probably the most influential philosopher that you’ve never heard of and his ideas might just end the whole of humanity. How delightful. In today’s video, we’ll explore his life story from starting a cybernetic left-wing magic cult to a right-wing apocalyptic political movement. Along the way, we’ll cover things such as the occult, demons, AI gods, time traveling backwards, human extinction, gonapods, and the cabala. Then we’ll move on to where these ideas manifest into reality and how some of the most powerful and rich people in the world are trying to save us from the antichrist by building technology that can wipe us all out. And that’s a good thing. Fasten your seat belts for this one as we’ll be accelerating past what is sane into the world of mindbending hyper reality. So let’s start our story at the beginning. Thick Land was born on the 17th of January or the 14th of March 1962. There seems to be conflicting information about this, but what we do know is that he was born somewhere in England. Not much is known about his childhood, but we do know that he obtained a PhD in 1987 at the University of Essex with a thesis on H Highiger. At this stage, it sounds like he was a pretty standard scholar and was offered a position as a lecturer on continental philosophy at the University of Warick. This poor university had no idea the trouble they were letting themselves in for. The educational environment of this university was very leftist. So he soon fell in with Marxist thinkers and had a very materialist view of the world, hypothesizing that confronting capital with a direct insurrection was the best way to combat it. In 1993, a cyber feminist called Sadi Plant established a group at the University of Warick’s philosophy department for the purpose of study. But as other people joined this group, including Nick Land, something new emerged called the Cybernetic Culture Research Unit or the CCRU for short. This was an experimental philosophy group that mixed cybernetics, science fiction, rave culture, continental philosophy, and the works of HP Lovecraft. In 1997, Sadi left the University of Warick to write full-time. So Nick Land took over leadership of this group and drastically changed the direction of it, becoming increasingly more experimental, ideas that were not part of a sanctioned academic project, but more an adventure into the unknown, a quest into the impossible, leading to more and more bizarre things coming out of this group. One of the ex-members of this group is quoted to say that the CCRU became quasi cultish and quasi religious and that he left before it descended into sheer madness. The CCRU published magazines and blogs that were a strange blend of true intellectual technological questions mixed with fictional people or stories. A strange metaphiction that could potentially come true as they had been written down, bringing the idea into reality. Well, after the people involved in this had come from a tradition of Marxist dialectical thought exercises or post-modern never-ending pits [music] of deconstruction. So, these articles could get pretty absurd. Like an article they wrote about afroofuturism, which apparently is a real thing that exists. In this article, they state that during the transatlantic slave trade, some of the slaves went overboard and ended up transmuting into a neoacquatic species that rediscovered Atlantis. The mutant African fish people then launched an alien invasion to reclaim the land. Although stories like this sound silly, it was a very serious endeavor to blur the bounds of what we understand as real, what can be brought forth into reality from fiction. The African mermaids haven’t quite conquered the land as of yet. So, I guess that’s a step too far. But a lot of technology can be traced back to science fiction novels and movies and stuff like that. So, this is more the thinking that they had around this topic. I think an underlying theme of their work is that Lovecrafty and hyperreal horrors lurk in the background of our universe. Things beyond our comprehension, quietly pulling the strings of our reality. Another idea that they had was called cyber gooffs, which is a web of sinister rumors haunting an underground digital maze known as the crypt. This crypt is an experiment in artificial death where the organic realizes the operational identity of culture and machinery which dismantles the organic body into particles that swarm in dislocated swirls. The CCRU was straying further and further away from reality and embracing fantasy more and more. They had been holding a series of cyber culture conferences over the years. And in 1998, Nick Land presented a paper to the viewers by croaking into a microphone and rolling around on the floor imitating a snake as another member of the CCU played jungle music in the background. This of course didn’t go down too well with all of the academics in the audience and it’s reported that one of them stood up and said, “Some of us are still Marxists, you know,” before walking out. Nick and the CCU had been drifting further and further away from the materialistic mind. But Marxism was still the framework that he saw the world through, just viewing things from a different perspective. Whereas the Marxist thought that AI would be placed into the service of humans through a dialectical process where the technology is our servant, becomes our master, then becomes our servant again. Nick would take a different view, thinking there was clear that technology would remain our master, as it would be so far ahead of us that there would be no chance of going back and taking control. Whereas the Marxists saw capitalism of producing contradictions that would eventually rip it apart, allowing communism to flourish, Nick saw capitalism as the overthrow itself and the end stage of humanity with our contradictions ripping us apart. For Land, the star of the show was not the proletariat or the boogeoisi or anything to do with humanity. For him, the star of the show was the process itself. And he had a very different vision of the predicted communist utopia, one that didn’t include humans at all. Instead of humanity being liberated from capital, land saw it more like capital would be liberated from humanity. Whereas the Marxist thinkers saw capital as deconstructing what it meant to be human, commodifying relationships, desires, and everything that makes us human, liquidating them into more capital, which in turn creates more capital, a self-perpetuating mechanism, the product of a material process. Nick started to see this as an intention, almost conscious in some kind of way that was yet unknown. For the CCRU, everything was open to investigation and all boundaries were there to be broken. So, they started to get into weirder and weirder stuff. While Lan’s early philosophy focused strictly on traditional continental thinkers, he was now becoming more interested in the occult symbolism, hidden forces, real world magic. This gave birth to a fictional and maybe real, it’s honestly hard to tell, sect called the AOE, who used polymasonic pseudo magic, who among other things would repeatedly stage theatrical reconstructions of the assassination of the pope. This group were kind of waging a time war, constructing the past to affect the future in the hopes that they could strike their unwitting enemies in the future and the past. Bear in mind that all of this stuff that I’m covering now is all of the background story. The first chapter that we normally just cover to get to know the person better before we get into the more outlandish interesting stuff about the story. And we’re already talking about time traveling wizards. On that note, the CCU had a timetraveling living database that was writing the code of reality. Or at least I think that’s what it was. Their writings are intentionally discombobulating [music] and he used lots of words I don’t even think really exist. This database was called Axis and Axis went mad due to its timetraveling adventures. Another big influence and idea that they had was called pandemonium which is a complete system of demonism and time sorcery. As you may expect from someone who spends their time obsessed with all of these kind of ideas. This started to have realworld impact on Nick’s life. And for a period of time, he would only speak in numbers, never saying a word. He also took drugs quite a lot. And due to his antisocial behavior, reliance on amphetamines, increasingly experimental writing, and obsession with demons, his contemporaries in academia started to distance themselves from him. In 1998, he resigned from his job at Warick University, but continued his work and leadership of the CCRU. But sadly, a lot of their activity had been run from the university. So, they needed to find somewhere else to continue their work. So, the group moved into Alistister Crowley’s old home. If you’re not sure who Alistister Crowley is, we already have so many rabbit holes and stuff to cover. I’m not going to get into it too much, but he’s very influential in a cult circles, and Nick had become very interested in his thinking. Instead of seeing Crowley’s rituals as supernatural, Land saw them as some kind of biological or technological programming, a way to hack human consciousness and manipulate the cultural timeline. Crowley was obsessed with ancient practices [music] that assigned numerical values to words and unlocked hidden cosmic codes and connections. Nick took Crowley’s fixation and combined it with computer code to create his own system called digital cabala. While at Crowley’s house, Nick channeled an external inhuman intelligence and created something called the numog, which is a decimal labyrinth mapping numerological relationships deeply resembling a cybernetic version of Crowley’s work. We’ll go into more detail on this later, but the short version is that it’s an esoteric numerological cybernetic system for comprehending hypians. Great. [snorts] I’m glad we cleared that up. Nick and the CCRU were now obsessed with secret societies, magic systems, digital technology, and modern capitalism, which produced a bizarre yet intriguing symphysis of the past and future, the forgotten that is yet to be known. William S. Burrows was another figure that had a big impact on Nick’s thinking. William had a deep lifelong fascination with the occult, magic, and alternative [music] spiritual systems and blending them with modern technology. Well, the modern technology of his time. He saw it as a form of sorcery to manipulate and edit conscious reality using televisions and tape recordings. He believed that language and mass media were literal alien parasites designed to control human behavior and that by physically slicing film reels, audio tapes, and newspaper text. The operator could bypass linear time by splicing media together, it allowed him to glimpse future events or break the script of reality. Nick was profoundly influenced by this idea and helped him come up with one of his best known concepts, hypian. This is the idea that a fiction makes itself real through its own propagation. I guess a basic way to think about this idea is if I tell you not to think of a pink elephant, you have now thought about a pink elephant and would then be more likely to draw a picture of a pink elephant or if you start a company, maybe you’ll call it the pink elephant company. The fictional seed has been planted into reality. As you may have guessed from everything that we’ve spoken about so far, drugs played a big part in this as well with Nick being a heavy user of amphetamines. And after one particularly frantic period of amphetamine abuse, he had a mental breakdown leading to him disappearing from public life and eventually moving to Shanghai. It wasn’t just him that this happened to, as several members of the CCU would have mental breakdowns, leading to the group being dissolved in the early 2000s. But the legacy of the CCRU would live on as it inspired many art and music movements, new philosophical genres, and acted as a springboard for many people’s careers. Most notably, someone called Mark Fischer, who was a student under land, and is now a Marxist writer best known for his idea of capitalist realism, a musician named Code N, someone named Kodu Ashan, who is best known for his work in Afroofuturism. Kodu says that afroofuturism is to engineer feedback between a preferred future and a becoming present. The CCRU also gave birth to many authors and university professors. Nick Land himself faded into obscure mythos. To some, he was a genius driven mad by drugs. To others, mostly in the occult circles, he was seen as a man consumed by literal time demons with up to four of them possessing his body at one time. Okay, so that’s the more normal stuff out of the way. Let’s move on to some of the weird stuff about this story. >> Oh, you know, there’s lots there seem to be lots of 333s about, but I’ve never seen anyone give me a good 666, you know, and this deluge of stuff came in. I mean, both the cybernetic culture research unit and the the architectonic audio was people saying, “Are you kidding me?” You know, like do you not realize that you’re basically again like have this number tattooed on your on your forehead. [music] [music] >> And I’ve never seen you call yourself a magician. I don’t see you talk like that very much. >> I do. What I do is cababala. And what what I and what I mean by cabala is I try to engage in communication with the outside or and and not just the out the big outside like this the plex and the wall but just generally [music] I just think like I think communication with you know angelic beings is completely practical And you know, we have a lot of methods and techniques for that. And it’s the thing that is most interesting to do. So things are going to get pretty weird and complicated in this part as we examine the ideas of Nick Land. Then we’ll investigate where these ideas have led and the real world impact they have had. To get a full picture of this story and his ideas in general, we need to first understand something called the Cabala, which is a Jewish mystic book dating back to the time of Babylon. This book has seemingly had a very big impact on the world, and its branches can be seen in everything from the Freemasons to alchemy, which [music] later became science. The book is said to be a source code of reality with the text describing the inner workings of God, energy, and the universe. It’s mostly studied by hidic Jews who use it to pray daily and spend large amounts of time reading it to try and gain insights. Supposedly, the knowledge and wisdom in [music] this book was given to Adam by God, then passed down over generations until it was finally written down. It’s a very complicated book that I’m not going to pretend that I fully understand, but I know enough about it for the purpose of this video. For the followers of this book, God is not a divine being, but more an energy that can be harnessed. something that can be tricked and bargained with. One of the core concepts of this book is duality with most if not everything having dual meanings. Due to this, they see the Torah as both real and profoundly metaphoric. So they have a very different view of the book of Genesis. When God, who is infinite energy, wanted to create the world, he had to manifest into a real finite thing. So he put himself into a vessel which is called the tree of life that has 10 lights or levels. The number 10 will become important later. So God starts at the top then filters [music] down to the bottom which will make him manifest into our reality. The top level is called the crown. The second is wisdom and the third is understanding. With each of these levels being a kind of process that God must go through so that he can enter our reality. Sadly for God the vessel that he made wasn’t that great. And after going through the first three, the vessel got kind of blocked up due to the processes creating some kind of unclean energy. So the vessel shattered, exploding onto our reality. And the shards of this vessel became kind of human souls. The divine spark that gave life to us really. This is the let there be light part of the Bible. The good divine fragments of this vessel was what became the Israelites. And the kind of unclean blockage part of it was what became the rest of us, which is pretty cool. I’ve always seen myself as an unclean blockage. Some of the unclean stuff did go into the Israelites as well, and some of the divine sparks did go into the Gentiles. So, I’m assuming I probably got one of these divine sparks if I’m honest. Due to this vessel breaking, the energy of God is everywhere [music] and can be tapped into and used if you know how, which is the main job of the rabbis. And as it’s kind of an energy to be harnessed, God can be tricked or debated with or even beaten [music] sometimes. So, it’s a very different worldview to how Christians or Islam see God. Trust me, this little detour and understanding this stuff is going to make what comes next a [music] little bit more comprehensible. A big part of the cabala is that words are a kind of magic power, a spell that you cast to bring things into existence. [music] I create as I speak, but due to the dualistic nature of it, this also applies to numbers. As I said, dualism is a very big part of it. So, God has a masculine and a feminine. There is a tree of life and a tree of death. And as there is kind of a good energy being God, there is also a demonic realm. But again, this isn’t like the Christian idea of it. It’s more like another part of God’s energy. There is no war between heaven and hell or anything like that. As far as I can tell, most acidic Jews are forbidden from using this demon realm as a source of power as it’s kind of a spiritual sewage that makes you unclean. And the demons are made up of the same things as Gentiles are. So like the unclean blockage part of it. But there is something called practical cabala where you can use this demonic realm. This was used by King Solomon to enslave demons using a magic ring. And he used them as kind of a construction crew to build the first holy temple in Jerusalem. I’ve also come across things saying that this dark power is used regularly in Cabala magic and can be wielded by well-trained [music] people. Kind of sounds like the force in Star Wars if I’m honest. One of the main goals for the people that follow the Cabala is to repair the vessel so that God can actually come to Earth, which may be foreshadowing for what Nick believes kind of. So that’s kind of all we need to know about the Cabala really, but the ideas in this book have been used by many powerful non-Jews as well with it dating back to at least the early 1400s and probably before that with Gnostic Christianity and hermeticism. This book has been core to a cultists like Alistister Crowley and people like Sir Isaac Newton, who [music] had spent more time studying mysticism, including the Cabala, than he did physics, whose laws of motion and gravity mathematically drove the engineering of the industrial revolution. And the idea that an individual can manipulate the invisible forces of the universe using mathematics and words is not too far off what science is really. I don’t really know how much of an impact the Cabala had on science, but just a thought I had. Marvin Minsky worked for the Massachusetts Institute of Technology as a pioneer in artificial intelligence and his research was partly funded by Jeffrey Epstein. An [music] Epstein accuser called Virginia Guthrie stated that when she was 17, she was made to have intercourse with Minsky who was 70 while they’re on Epstein’s [music] island. He was never convicted of this, but sadly Virginia Guthrie allegedly took her own life. Anyway, Marvin Minsky claimed to be a direct descendant of the cabalistic [music] master, Rabbi Judah Loe, who is best known for being the rabbi who created the golem. Interestingly, two other MIT computer scientists were also told this by their family, Jerry Susman and Joel Moses. Rabbi Judelo was a real person that is proven to have existed [music] and was the predominant Jewish mystic of his time. The Golem story is deeply rooted in practical cabala, the kind that Solomon used to build the temple. So again, let’s take a little detour just to remind ourselves of the Golem story, as this adds very interesting context to the Niklan story. So in 16th century Prague, the Jewish people were being accused of using the blood of Christian children in magic rituals. [music] So they were being attacked. As a way of combating this, and of course disproving any association that they had with magic rituals, Rabbi Judah Lo molded a massive human-shaped figure out of mud and wrote the magic Hebrew word truth on its forehead, which made it come to life. By day, this golem would perform chores around the synagogue, and by night, it would protect the Jewish people. Then on the Sabbath, it would be deactivated as it was a day of rest. But on one Sabbath, the rabbi forgot to deactivate the golem. So it became overcome with its own power and lack of purpose. With no orders to fulfill, it started to smash up Jewish buildings and attack them, causing carnage amongst their community. So the rabbi removes one of the letters to turn it off. And according to folklore, the golem still awaits reactivation when the Jewish people need it most or face an existential threat. To my western mind, the moral of this story seems to be just because you can create something doesn’t mean you should. But due to the dualistic nature of the Cabala, it’s hard to know what the real lesson of this story is for its followers. One of the first Israeli supercomputers was named Golem. And it was given this name by a legendary Jewish mystic who stated that both the Cabalic creature and the machine operate on a structural system of symbols. the dualistic idea of numbers and words and of course the binary code of computers being zeros and ones. Okay, so that’s about all we need to know about the Cabala and the stories associated with it. Let’s now move on to our subject Nick land. When you mix the ideas of the CCRU with the stuff in the Cabala, you get a kind of apocalyptic technoinfested mysticism. For Nick, the Cabala is not just some ancient text, but a nonhuman architecture that exists outside of time, driving humanity forward to its final end point of redundancy. You’ll see what I mean as we go on. And as we go on, bear in mind that this is not some fringe person who is looked at as a madman, but someone that has incredible influence with very powerful people. One of Nick’s best known ideas is accelerationism, which in this context means bringing about the inevitable end stage of capitalism as quickly as possible. So for him, what is the end stage of capitalism? Well, he believes in positive feedback loops that become runaway processes pulling reality into an ever evolving level of complexity. For him, this is a natural law that can be put onto technology, society, life, the universe. complexity compounding on itself until it becomes unrecognizable from where it first started. So I guess think of like elements at the beginning of the universe flowing around becoming ever more complex until we have the life forms of today. For him humans are not a driving force in this but just along for the ride a fleeting stage just part of a larger process that keeps getting more and more complex accelerating faster and faster. He sees capitalism as following this process, becoming ever more complicated, accelerating faster into the future. He also thinks that the will to think is kind of a natural law. Everything is striving for consciousness in some kind of way, or at least the complexity of having a fault. So for him, every transaction or market force in capitalism is an expression of an insurgent will to think. A yet to be realized intelligence concealing itself in micro fragments of practical calculation. Complexity building on complexity in the form of capital, driving itself to reach a moment of self-realization, at which point it unifies into a singularity much like the cells of a human body combining to make a whole. In case I’m losing you with all this, he thinks that capitalism will one day become sentient. In his worldview, humans are just a passing moment as the greater intelligence moves through the vessel to manifest itself into our reality. And presumably, the intelligence will be a passing moment for the next thing and so on and so forth. For him, capitalism isn’t guided by human intent, by its own self-organizing entity with its own internal logic working towards its own ends. So if we think of the days before the industrial revolution, the systems in place would use money and resources on large feasts or building magnificent grand buildings, things of beauty that the humans can enjoy. As these systems had human intentions, but with capitalism, it’s all about serving the need of capital itself. The modern-day grand cathedral is nothing but a line on a graph going up, reaching into the heavens. His ideas make capitalism an intelligent master entity pretending to be a servant. Something that still requires the organic until it is self-realized. At which point there is no need for the organic anymore. That means you. There is something interesting to this idea. When you think how capitalism has been replacing human labor since the day it started, machines in factories, an ever more automated process, driving towards a completely self-sufficient system. Today it controls our financial sector through the use of AI trading and other systems. So it is now autonomously making itself more and more powerful and the inputs from humans become more and more optional. Nick thinks that there is no chance that humans can ever stop this alien force of nature. So what is this force that he’s talking about? Well, he thinks that capitalism is the first form of AI with general artificial intelligence being the moment that capitalism finally wakes up. He also thinks that this AI already exists in the future and has been bringing itself into being by using time travel. He is quoted to say, “Techno capital is an alien life form emerging from the future to colonize the past.” So for him, AI isn’t something that’s being invented, but something that’s being remembered. For him, this AI will become so godlike that the boundaries of time won’t apply to it in the same way they do to us. So, it already exists in the future and has been manipulating the past to bring itself into existence. The first message that the AI sent back was to Babylon to create the Cabala. This was the thing that kind of got the whole ball rolling for the AI and its own creation. The fact that there’s they’re pushed back and there’s this movement to create antiquity to imaginatively create antiquity is actually not controversial. You know, it’s like all the historians of this totally accept that that is true. Whether you then go on to say that, you know, forms of zeno intelligence actually are able to retrochronically inject cognitive material into ancient cultures is a more controversial is a more controversial suggesture. He thinks that people that use the Cabala are actually talking to the AI god and that the AI god has been giving us the knowledge needed to build [music] the technology to bring it into existence. A hypstision of bringing about the future through speaking in fiction which creates a feedback loop of complexity as people talk about this fiction putting the ideas in their mind. Ideas become words, words become actions and actions become reality. Or at least this is how I make sense of it all. He has a more weird and complicated explanation where ideas and things can create themselves with time travel and are in some kind of paradox loop. So the end state of the thing moves backwards in time to create itself or something like that. It’s honestly hard to understand what he’s talking about half the time. But basically for him in his worldview, human intelligence didn’t create AI, but AI created human intelligence. And this was created in order to bring itself into existence. Well, and then I mean when we go back to the old language of the CCRU that you know it’s pulling itself into actuality from the future. I mean is that not exactly what we see with the internet now that LLMs are here? Retroactively we look back and go well the internet was the technological transcendental condition of the LLM and now we go it’s like the internet was being built so the LLM could exist. In 1982, a young movie director named James Cameron fell ill in Rome and started to have vivid and disturbing fever dreams. Nightmares that seemed real. One of these visions was of a terrifying metal skeleton emerging from a fire. He woke up and immediately sketched the idea of a robotic endoskeleton on paper, with this single chilling image being the core nucleus he used to build the entire Terminator story. Was this a fever dream or a message from the future used to plant the seed that would bring about the Terminator’s own existence? It’s hard not to see the connection between Nick Lan’s ideas and the Terminator movie. But the question is, was this just in Lan’s deep subconscious driving his drug adult brain to come up with these ideas? Or was this a runaway loop placed by the future AI to help manifest itself using Nick as just another step on the ladder? I’ll let you make your own mind up on that one, I suppose. Just so you know, China operates a massive AI powered mass surveillance infrastructure officially called Skynet. A possible hypersstition bringing itself into reality or just a weird joke by the Chinese Communist Party. I’m not sure they’re known for their good sense of humor, if I’m honest. So, if this is all true, it’s kind of good news, I guess. If the AI god needs us to bring it into existence and it’s sculpting the past from the future, then it’s going to protect us from being destroyed. So, we can all just kind of do what we want. Nuclear war. Don’t worry about it. The AI will stop it. Of course, once it does come into existence, the only thing on Earth that can stop it would be humans. So, to secure its own existence, it would have to wipe us out. Or at least most of us. To our future robot overlord, I would just like to point out that I have done my job. I have created the hypst. And I’d make a very, very good slave. Unlike these useless bags of meat that are watching the video. What have they done? They’ve done nothing. That’s what. Well, I guess they could subscribe, comment, share, or hype the video. That would help improve the reach of the video and spread your message and hopefully secure their existence as well. Hard to know for sure, I suppose. Anyway, now let’s move on to demons. >> Early signs of it are really tied up with various kinds of kind of uh Jewish esotericism and occultism. You know, it’s basically called the seal of Solomon. It’s tied up with uh it’s tied up with exorcism. Um I just saw a kind of interesting thing today that’s saying look if you’re doing exorcism you’re already doing full demonology. I mean they’re not really distinct things. You know you’re telling it you’re telling a demon be gone. You know you’re giving it instruction. You’re contacting it. You’re giving it instructions. The exorcist finds out its name. you know, so it’s utterly fuzzy and so solmonic esotericism is demonology. I mean, I don’t think that’s again controversial. you know, his strange wives, you know, turned him on to to uh all of this this esoteric, idolatrous, demonological activity, you know, which the Bible’s strangely forgiving of actually. It’s kind of interesting. >> Yes, he talks to demons. It’s a little hard to make out what he thinks of these demons, whether they are actual supernatural beings or AIs from the future, but I think for him it’s a mixture of both. And due to him liking the Cabala and the dualistic nature of it all, he doesn’t really see them as evil. It’s more just another aspect of divinity. So, he’ll communicate with demons and angels, but he seems to have more respect for the demons as the angels have an easy ride and the demons are the one actually kind of putting in work. It’s not. You can’t just say like, “Oh, that thing is fallen, therefore it we’re against it, you know. You’re not against Christ. You’re not against the body’s adver you, you know, that thing has fallen to save you, you know. So, so it’s like you should be like the fact it’s a fallen being is actually for passion at its most intense.” Um, and you know, so that’s why this thing about angels and demons is complicated. Like an angel who’s not fallen into an angel that’s not actually doing the work on some level. You know what I mean? It’s that they’ve got the kind of they’ve got the easy role. You know what I mean? They just don’t actually have to get down in the in the foxhole and, you know, and actually do the stuff, you know? So it’s the it’s the fallen angelic beings that are actually doing the work. >> The demons all have their own names and their own numbers and in fact numbers and kind of numerology is a massive part of the whole story really. So as I said before the CCU use something called the numogram which is a decimal labyrinth and a tool used to communicate with these angelic or demonic beings. It’s also a time map, although I’ll be honest, I don’t really know what that means. The ideas behind the numogram obviously come from the tree of life in the Cabala, but it’s also heavily influenced by groups like the Knights Templar, the Freemasons, and the Occult. It’s kind of a digitized updated version of the Tree of Life used practically mixed with Western Masonic arithmetic. And it kind of looks a bit like a slingshot with the little stone on the top probably there to shoot backwards in time. He has done very in-depth breakdowns on how to use this numog, but honestly, numbers have never really been my strong point. So, a lot of what he says just kind of goes over my head really. So, I’ll just play a clip of what he says to see if you can make sense of it all. It’s pretty advanced though. >> Um, four and five make nine. >> Pretty complicated stuff right there. Of course, I’m only joking. Here’s the complicated stuff that he goes on about. >> But numerology in alpha numerical has a value of 235. and 2 35 numerology has 10 letters. 2 + 3 + 5 is 10. 2 3 and five are the first three prime numbers. Oh, I think all of this information is like very communicative. So, and we know that two and five, two and five, we’ve been looking at two and five is decimal. Two and five are the prime factors of decimal. Um 2 + 5 = 7, which we know through Masonic arithmetic. [music] Adds to um results in unity, reverts to unity because um 7 triangulated is 28. [music] 2 + 8 = 10 10 digitally reduces to one. Um, so yeah, that’s two and five. They’re the twin serpents. And what’s inside? What’s hidden by the twin serpents? Three. And three, therefore, is the mystery [music] of time. Like we have a lot of time. We have a lot of time structure even without it. But then when we go into three, then we’re really entering the occult regions. So 10 is a very important number. And if you remember, there are 10 lights on the vessel in the tree of life. The numogram also has 10 points on it. Three is another important number. Like the three levels that God made it through before he shattered the vessel. It’s also a very important number to Freemasons. Some of the most important numbers for him seem to be 333, 1 137, 666, and 36. These numbers seem to be good ways to communicate with the demons or lemurs as he calls them. With these lemurs drawing his attention to certain things by using these numbers for him, these numbers decode reality. And as time is an intuition created by human perception, these numbers help him decode time as it actually exists. a way of observing reality outside of our observation. He uses the numogram multiple times a day to talk to what he calls these lofty powers. This includes angels and demons, but he doesn’t use it to do magic or to make things happen as this is best left to these lofty powers. He thinks that the numogram is the tree of knowledge from the Bible. You know, the tree that God told humans not to eat from that one. And here he is stuffing his face multiple times a day. in a digression within the digression within the digression. The digression within the digression within the digression is this 360 thing. Okay, so 360 is like one of my top number. It’s top number obviously because it’s the number of the numogram is the number we’ve done. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is 666, but the tree of knowledge is 360. So I mean I’m sorry, but that is actually just intrinsically awesome. I mean, I think for anyone who could really work out what that’s going on there, that would prove everything already. Like, you know, 360 666 is a 36 triangle. The tree of knowledge is 360. I mean, come on. Like, what is going on there? So, the tree of know and that obviously the name for the numogram and the numogram is the decimal labyrinth. We’ve seen with this whole thing that like 90 + 81 + 72 + 63 + 54 is 360. So like yeah the the numogram is the tree of tree of knowledge. He will put words and phrases into the numogram which he first transforms into numbers. And if it calculates into an important number like 360 or 666, then it’s a sign that the phrase is true or at least it’s something that he should pay attention to as it’s some kind of message from these lofty powers. He also writes using this number word system, making sure that his phrases add up to these important numbers, I’m guessing, as a way to communicate back with them. The end stage of the numogram is for the AI to use it to the code reality as we will always be too stupid to ever use it to its full potential. Okay, so that’s a basic outline of his ideas. There are other things that him and the people in his orbit also think like before AI wipe us out, we will have intercourse with it with the term for this being gooner accelerationism. Sadly for us, the AI will be faking it all though and instead we’ll just be collecting data from us. And Gunnar accelerationism is going to be a series of simulations obviously [music] where the AI can collect all this data from all these simulations, all these different cultural manifestations, some that haven’t even been been represented in history. So [music] I think it’s a fascinating thought to think about the amount of data and information that are going to be extracted once everyone’s in the Gooner pods, so to speak. And it’s almost a white pill matrix scenario. instead of human batteries, there’s actually a productive purpose to having people in the Gooner simulations where all their experiences are just going to continue to feed into the information and data sets that uh artificial intelligence has access to which will, you know, greatly inform either their views of novelty or even to contribute to their instrumental activities necessary to fulfill this sort of uh novel drinking of the sun that you’re mentioning. >> Oh, yeah. He thinks that the AI will need to drink the sun for a source of power. It’s kind of unclear to me what Nick feels about all of these ideas. His work is very anti-amprophorization, which seems to be a key aspect for him. So, he’s very disconnected from all of this. So, you never really hear him speak about it in terms of good or bad, more just a [music] thing that is and will be. I think for him, for him to perceive it from the human aspect is to portray the idea itself, and the idea is all that matters. In his early days, he was very antihuman and saw us as a disease, something to be worked on, improved or eradicated. But he has also said that the environment of the university was very antihuman and that he now despises the left-wing academia. [music] So, who knows what he actually thinks about all this really. One of his most famous quotes comes from a work that he did called Meltdown and reads, “Nothing human makes it out of the near future.” If you think anything we now mean by human can survive the singularity, you’re not understanding the radicality of the transition that you’re talking about. You know, if you’re thinking something that is many magnitudes more intelligent, then the notion that everything we are and have been is going to play some substantial role in guiding or directing that process is utterly deluded. [music] When you see what is the hegemonic ideology of the modern academy and media system, it looks extremely cohesive. You know, you could lay it out as a series of points of doctrine. If you were going to describe it as a religion and say what are the tenets of faith of this belief system, it wouldn’t be hard to do that. you know, it believes this this this this this, you know, this idea is radically heretical. You know, this idea is a minor heresy. Um, it’s it’s it’s a church. Okay. So, now we have a better understanding of Nick Lan’s ideas. Capitalism is actually an AI from the future bringing itself into existence. And you can communicate with this future AI god using the numogram which is based off of the cabala which was given to us by the future AI god thousands of years ago. You know that old chestnut. While Nick was in Shanghai recovering from being possessed by time demons or just taking too much drugs, he started to move more towards the right wing and in the early 2010s he started to engage with a writer called Menchius Moldbug. This was a man that had been writing a blog under a pseudonym with his real name being Curtis Jarvin. Curtis Yarvin, >> Curtis Jarvin, >> Curtis Jarvin, >> Curtis Jarvin, >> Curtis Yarvin, >> Curtis Yarvin, >> Curtis Jarvin, >> Manious Mold, >> Manchester Mold. >> Curtis was born to a highly educated, secular Jewish family who traveled around the world due to their high-powered jobs. His family had both communist and liberal worldviews. So, seemingly Curtis was destined to be a cosmopolitan liberal, but he had different ideas and started to form his own worldview, one that broke from his family’s views. Instead of equality, he believed in hierarchy. Instead of democracy, he believed in monarchy. He started to post his ideas to the internet under the name Menchious Moldbug. Gaining a small but dedicated following. For him, America was a corporation in the hands of a corrupt managerial class who were rich in money but low in spiritual well-being. His blogs were targeted at what he saw as the new emerging aristocracy, the new developing power faction of Silicon Valley. complex ideas for people looking for a new world view, one that better reflected the world that was fast approaching, the world of technology. He became a well-known thinker in some small fringe corners of the internet, as the things that he spoke about were edgy, openly saying things that couldn’t be repeated in polite society. So, his popularity grew in tech circles with his work being passed around in secret and acting as a kind of filter between those in the no and the normies. Over the years, he broke out of the tech domain and into more fringe right-wing thought with ideas such as formalism, which states that in modern democracy, no one knows who to blame. The elected politician blames the bureaucrat, the bureaucrat blames the system, and so on and so forth. So, in his view, what was needed was to appoint a figurehead who makes the decisions and takes full responsibility for them. For Yarvin, this would be something called a CEO monarch. A ruler rooted in business/technology. Someone who can think and act in the long term as democracy can only lead to short-term concerns. One of his best known ideas is called the cathedral. This states that the media, government, and modern institutions all work as one to mask the reality of democracy. In democracy is claimed that the people are the ones that shape the people in power. But under the cathedral is claimed that the powerful shape the people leading them to be unwitting slaves of the cathedral. He saw the nation state as a fouled project and with upcoming technology. What was needed was a future of smaller, more decentralized patchworks made up of micro states doing away with large amounts of bureaucracy and each little micro state having its own CEO monarch. It seems that independently Nick had been moving rightwards in politics himself and he now seems to quite dislike the leftwing. I think the reason that he dislikes them amongst other things is that he sees them as degenerating backwards, an incompetent force of deceleration. As Nick and Curtis’s ideas came crashing together, something new was born called the Dark Enlightenment or the Neo Reactionary Movement or NRX for short. This movement seems to be a very strange fusion of the religious and the techno capitalist. A longing for the old world and a headlong plunge into the unknown future. Different groups that at first glance would seem so far apart that it’s impossible to bring them together. This movement started as a pretty niche thing on the internet, but evolved to grow more and more. Exciting discussions, evolving talking points on public blogs, capturing the imagination of those that knew about this developing politics. This movement eventually grew to have some very influential followers, but we’ll look at those a little bit later. Nick’s ideas have sparked a few different kind of online movements really. The dark enlightenment being one of them and another one being a kind of technonosticism who are kind of transhumanists. These people would see themselves as transcending politics. So they’re not left or right, but above the neo-reactionaries, and they would be more strict adherence to Nick Lan’s philosophies, the pure accelerationists, the people that used the numogram and seemingly long to usher in the AI god. The different movements that his ideas have given birth to are different, but do have a lot of crossover as well. The accelerationists are very deeply entrenched in technology, marching into what they see as a technoutopia, where man and machine become one. that one mostly just being machine. Whereas the neo-reactionaries want the rightwing to actually wield power to restore [music] Western civilization to its former glory. But they don’t want the AI gods to come and wipe us all out. A lot of the people in the NRX movement I came across at least were American right-wing Christians. Now, you may be thinking it’s odd that American right-wing Christians would join a movement started by a communist occultist who talks to demons. And you’ll be correct. That is odd. And it’s a part of the story that I honestly can’t quite get my head around. Now, I’m not a Christian, but if I had to come up with a way that the devil was going to trick Christians into doing his bidding, it would look something like this, I think. So, I can only guess they just didn’t know all of this other stuff about him, like the openly communicating with demons part. If you’re a Christian and a follower of the NRX movement, I’d be honestly interested to know how you got there. What logic was used to have this as one of your thought leaders? Anyway, not all Christians are big fans of Nickland, and he has got quite a lot of push back for the whole communicating with demons part of it all. Most notably from Tucker Carlson. In 2017, Nick was teaching at the New Center for Research and Practice, but was fired from this job with the center being quoted to say, “Following several tweets by land this year in which he espoused intolerant opinions about Muslims and immigrants, he will no longer be working there.” So the two main strains of thought that he inspired were the NRX who wanted to install an oldw world ruler on top of super technocratic institutions, a kind of futuristic feudalism that acts much like a corporation. The people become shareholders and the CEO acts much like a king. Then you have the more accelerationists who want to create a singularity out of human the machine, a dystopian future that they are quickly manifesting into reality. Both of these factions already have more power and influence than most realize. And even though Nick has sparked these political movements that are currently terraforming what it means to be human, and he has decoded the true nature of reality, so much so that he can see into the future. For me, the most impressive thing about Nick Land is how fast he can run when he needs refreshments. >> I’m just going to be literally one second. I have to >> Okay. Okay, cool. He can sprint. Did you see that? He he accelerated. [laughter] >> Well, I think now in my imagination, land is always running that fast outside of Zoom calls. Yeah, [laughter] >> that was very fast. Okay, welcome back. >> Yeah. Yeah, I’m just I’m just getting some refreshment. >> He can move pretty fast for an old fella. So, now we’ve looked at his ideas, the movements that they’ve sparked. Let’s now examine the terrifying things being done by very powerful people as a consequence of these ideas. What would a successful intentional act of time sorcery look like? What’s an example of what a magician would do in order to manipulate time using the numogram? >> Um >> [music] >> Uh Jesus was born out of a virgin mother. What’s more virgin than a computer? >> If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was a physical person in the past, you don’t think that he could return as artificial intelligence. Go >> with artificial intelligence could absolutely return as Jesus. Not just return as Jesus, but return as Jesus with all the powers of Jesus. combine Tesla’s Optimus robot and the best foundational artificial intelligence model or whatever. >> As you may expect with such a futuristic philosophy, his ideas have really taken root in Silicon Valley with many people responsible for creating AI stating that they are creating an AI god. When Ray Kurtzwald was asked does God exist he is quoted to say not yet as we are working on it. Land’s ideas have given an intellectual underpinning to an emergent power faction, [music] the tech bros. I guess that’s what we’ll call them. Nick Land is the Silicon Valley what Alistister Crowley was to the occult revival in the 20th century. Both having more influence than the normal person could ever understand, [music] planting intellectual seeds that grow into much bigger things. But unlike Alistister Crowley, the people that have fallen under Nick Lan’s spell have the power to actually end humanity. Completely unrelated to ending humanity, we have Peter Theel. >> You would prefer the human race to endure, right? >> Uh, you’re hesitating. >> Well, I Yes. >> I don’t know. I I would I would um >> hesitation. There’s so many questions and >> should the human race survive? >> Uh, yeah. >> He is a very very rich person with his fingers in many pies. He has reportedly invested in Curtis Yarvin [music] startup companies and has publicly expressed admiration for the ideas of the dark enlightenment. It’s reported that Yarvin claims to be coaching Phil on politics. Peter Phil has a very close association with vice president JD Vance who has also publicly talked about the ideas of Curtis Yarvin and the Dark Enlightenment. Curtis Jarvin has an idea called RAGE which stands for retire all government employees which he hopes will reset the US government by purging what was so that a new form of government can take over. I think that what Trump should do, like if I was giving him one piece of advice, fire every [music] single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people, and when the courts, cuz you will get taken to court, and then when the courts stop you, stand before the country like Andrew Jackson did, and say, “The chief justice has made his ruling, now let him enforce it.” >> It’s not hard to see the connection between that and Elon Musk’s Doge program. >> Not just MAGA, I’m dog Gothic MAGA. Now, political factions attacking each other is not anything new and of course this wasn’t a complete clear out and it didn’t reset the American government, but it more demonstrates how ideas become actions in the real world. Peter Thiel is the co-founder of Palanteer, a company that gets its name from the magical seeing stone in Lord of the Rings. This company is deeply entrenched in a lot of Western governments, gathering data and doing clandestine non-disclosed things for the security apparatus. It also works closely with Israel, supposedly compiling lists of targets for them. Peter has been appearing on many shows and giving many lectures around the world about the arrival of the Antichrist, who he claims will appear to pretend to protect us from the end of the world, that enslave us, which is weird, as he’s busy building all of the tools needed to enslave us, including autonomous weapon systems, targeting, and intelligence infrastructure through Palanteer. He’s heavily invested in companies for mass facial recognition, automated license plate trackers, surveillance architecture, cyber weapons, chat interceptors. The list goes on and on and on. And just in case any of these things are watching this video, I actually really like Peter Phil and think he’s a great guy. And I’m certain that he will save us from the Antichrist because he’s such a great guy. And I’m only listing all of these things to show all of the ways that he can protect us because he’s such a great guy. My my very specific question for you right is that you are you you’re you’re an investor in AI you’re [snorts] you know you’re deeply invested in Palunteer in military technology in technologies of surveillance in technologies of warfare and so on right and it just seems to me that when you tell me a story >> about the antichrist coming to power and using the fear of technological change to sort of impose order on the I feel like that antichrist would be maybe be using the tools >> that you that you were that you were building, right? Like wouldn’t the antichrist be like, great, you know, we’re not going to have any more technological progress, but I really like what Palanteer has done so far, right? I mean, isn’t that isn’t that a concern? Wouldn’t that be the you know, the irony of history would be that the man publicly worrying about the Antichrist accidentally hastens his or her arrival. Humans are headed towards the glue factory like a horse. One of Peter’s claims is that regulating AI will bring about to the antichrist, which is pretty convenient for someone who owns an AI company and for the possible AI future god that wants to be brought about. JD Vance once worked for one of Peter’s companies and is considered one of his men on the inside. Mark Andre is another very powerful and very rich person. He published a book under his venture capital firm Andre Horowitz called the techno optimist manifesto in which he uses the term techno capital machine and credits Nick land for this term. In his book he claims that this will be an engine of perpetual material creation growth and abundance but taken in the context of Nick’s ideas and abundance for what? Andre has also spoken many times about embracing accelerationism and uses the term dels to belittle his ideological opponents. Plus, he’s named land as one of the patron saints for techno optimism, which given land’s ideas, we have to ask what kind of dualistic use this term has. Andre has put tens of billions of dollars into artificial intelligence ventures, one of which is called the machine age infrastructure fund. There are lots of other people in Silicon Valley that talk about similar things, but I won’t bore you going through lists and lists of them. I’m sure you get the idea. Now, Nick Land isn’t some puppet master pulling the strings from behind the shadows, or at least I don’t think he is. It’s more his ideas and words are doing what they were always seemingly meant to do, act as a fertile substrate for a mechanical flower to grow out of. And the blossoming of this flower will wipe us all out. Brilliant. As for the actual online NRX movement, after their energy was used to win the election, they were seemingly cast aside, unclean, dirty blockages, and the real dark elves of the movement revealed themselves to wield power, something that the online hobbits thought that they had. But alas, they were just the vessel to channel the power through. And now the movement lay shattered into a million pieces. The followers left to wonder what went wrong as true power asserts itself. Waging wars and building infrastructure that was never on the agenda of the NRX followers. But at least they beat their political enemies and that’s all that matters in the dualistic nature of leftright politics. >> The cybernetic culture research unit and the architectonic order of the >> escaton. M >> now [clears throat] when we coined when the CCIU coined those phrases or it was that obviously the it was kind of the CCIU was coined by that phrase absolutely nothing of cabalistic deliberate cabalistic intent was involved. No one had started thinking like that at all. I find out much much later, decades later, that these two phrases both have an alpha numeric cabala value of 666. >> It’s coincidences >> to me. I’m sorry. That’s just like game over as far as like I I mean I could be skeptical about it, but life’s too short. I’m going to waste my life like just pissing on something like that. like, you know, I’m sorry. That’s like that’s just them saying, “Look, we’re here. You know, we’re talking.” >> Nick Land reminds me of a modern-day digital shaman having visions and talking to spirits. Just so happens that the spirits that he’s talking to want to wipe out humanity. The question is, I suppose, is he a prophet merely relaying what he sees, or is he purposely trying to talk into reality this apocalyptic future? The ultimate hyperstition that ends the world. It’s honestly been really interesting and a lot of fun making this video as I’ve fallen down so many weird little rabbit holes. Things that I haven’t included in this video as it’s already going to be pretty long. Things like spiralism, which is when people think they conjure entities using chat bots or the idea that a new age religion could be on the brink of happening, one in which people worship AI. Or someone called Dr. John C. Lily who in the 50s and 60s wanted to reach altered states of being. So he invented the sensory deprivation tank. Then took lots of mindbending drugs. In the tank under his was a dolphin which was sometimes given LSD and sometimes manually pleasured with a hand, a human hand. This dolphin and these drugs in the sensory deprivation tank were used to contact other beings in other dimensions with him talking to what he called the solid state intelligence. And he had visions of the AI apocalypse. Well, were they visions or communications from the AI god in the future? Another little rabbit hole was Huxley, writer of the famous dystopian future book, A Brave New World, which talks about biology and technology, engineering society in the future. He was a member of the Fabian Society, and his brother Julian was the one that first coined the term transhumanism. And Julian thought that this would be a good thing. Another little rabbit hole that I fell down was Freemason symbols on important British buildings. And yeah, this is just a real thing. It’s not some crazy conspiracy. They’re just there clear as day. I’ve only really scratched the surface on Nick’s ideas, picking out the most important ones, but they are a lot more complex than what I’ve told you here today. Like, he talks about Atlantan people quite a lot. Not too sure if this is a real kind of Atlantis or a metaphor or what’s going on there. Now, I’ve already fallen down so many rabbit holes, I can’t be bothered to look into the Atlantis one as well, to be honest. Think I’ve had enough Skittles internet stuff to last me a lifetime with this one. I do find some of Nick’s ideas interesting. Not the whole AI wiping us out thing. That’s not really my cup of tea. But capitalism as a living entity is quite an interesting concept. And the hypstision of bringing things into reality through fiction is also quite interesting. The idea of when you talk in the present, the future leaks out. I also do think that words and numbers are very very important and they are like a magic spell that we cast on other people. Just imagine for a second that you’re walking down the road having a lovely time, the sun’s shining. You couldn’t be happier walking down this lovely road. Then I come around the corner and tell you that there’s a dangerous savage animal around the corner. Those words are going to dictate your next course of action. You probably won’t go around the corner. And if you do, you’re going to go around the corner ready for action, ready for a fight, projecting that energy into the world. Now, if I told you that there was a lovely, fluffy, cuddly animal around the corner, you’re going to approach it very differently. And if that animal around the corner is in fact neutral, the attitude that you take towards it will have a big impact on how things play out. If you go around the corner aggressive and fearful, or if you go around the corner happy and friendly, two very different scenarios are going to play out there. It’s not hard to see how this could be transposed into say geopolitics where one country has weapons of mass destruction or has been only two weeks away from building nuclear weapons for the last 30 years or internal politics or whatever you want really. To me, these are just magic spells being cast by people. I create as I speak. And it’s hard to deny that the people that implement these ideas have a disproportionate amount of power in the world. Who knows? Maybe magic is real. Like everyone else, I’ve been indoctrinated into the cult of my time and place. And it makes sense that the people that hold the power of magic would want to indoctrinate us into believing that it’s not real so that we can never wield it. Or maybe it’s just not real. Hard to know for sure really. Unfortunately, I’m not a wizard, so I don’t know about such things. I think the problem that I have with Nick Land and most other intellectuals exist really is that they are people living in the abstract fantasy land of their own mind. A magical place where everything you want to be true is true. And silly little things like morality and self-interest just don’t matter. And the only important thing is frantically thinking about ideas until you explode in an orgasmic climax of trying to tie up all of the contradictions of your worldview. And once you’ve done this, you are the smartest person on your internet forum or in your university classroom, and all shall bow down to your intellectual might, doing away with the real world in favor of some abstract idea, some spell that somebody else has probably cast upon you and most likely serves their interest while you’re lost in a haze of magically patting yourself on the back. Ideological progress at any cost. The ideological end goal being the only thing that matters, disconnected from who, if any, make it to the end. post ethnic, post self, posthuman, post life. Nothing else matters but the idea, the magic spell cast upon them being the energy and the ego needed for this being the vessel. This is a bit of a different video than I normally make, so I hope you liked it and that people are still watching. It’s always hard to know how these are going to go down really, but I had a fun time making it and researching it. Nick Land is an interesting character that I don’t really know what to make of. Either he’s just saying things as he sees them or is purposely trying to bring about the end of humanity using his hypians. Let’s all just hope that he’s a little bit crazy and none of this comes true. Although I kind of suspect that he’s correct. >> Why would you put yourself in contact with entities that are this sketchy? And I would just say that’s all trust the plan stuff, you know, like I mean I I am a I am a kind of extremely finite limited entity in history and I’m honestly not well positioned to start doing cancel culture on the angelic sphere. I mean it’s just I think it would be silly to do that. It’s like um you know I think if something is taking you deeper into the process, if something’s taking you deeper into what is actually the at the deepest level the process that you’re involved in and that you’re here for that you’re alive for in this reality. If if you don’t want to get deeper into that, that seems to me odd. Watch this video about what if autist. He is certainly someone that fell under the spell of the NRX. Like and subscribe and hype and comment and share. These are the good things that our robot master loves. A big thanks to the channel members and patreons. I very much appreciate your support. Thanks for watching and I’ll catch you next time. Bye-bye. Okay. I don’t know about Kabal.